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Aloha To Phoenix

Fri May 10, 2002 10:40 pm

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RE: Aloha To Phoenix W- SNA Stop

Fri May 10, 2002 10:50 pm

Unfortunately the limited range of the 737-700 means they'll be stopping over in Orange County. However, the SNA-PHX market is underserved, so that may be a good thing for them...
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 5:32 am

Why doesnt ALOHA just use their 767's for these routes instead of buying 737's?
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 5:39 am

Sorry sorry. I was thinking of Hawaiian not ALOHA. Sorry again.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 5:42 am

I just doesnt feel right flying on flight that long on a small Narrowbody even though I know some of them have the range.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 5:50 am

I don't see how Aloha will be able to compete with HA on this route. I would rather have a direct flight to HNL instead of stopping off in SNA. Also, Hawaiian's 767's provide more seats and availability than the 737-700s that Aloha will use.

In addition, won't the PHX to SNA leg compete with Southwest?
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 6:06 am

The service is from Phoenix to MAUI via Orange County, not Honolulu. They won't be competing with HA's non-stops.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 7:31 am

Interesting situation: the mainland-Hawaii routes were only flown by widebody aircraft for years, then the 757 allowed some airlines to open up additional routes, especially to the "out" islands bypassing Honolulu, and now with the 73G we are seeing all kinds of city-pairs getting service.......Orange County to Maui and Burbank to Honolulu flights are routes that could have never been considered a few years ago. Great stuff.

It will be interesting to see if this trend of nonstop flights in smaller markets continues; since the introduction of large long-haul aircraft, frequency of flights to and between the South pacific islands has suffered, maybe with the 737NG air service in this area of the world can be improved.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 7:46 am

Maybe they could set up their frequency so that the poor college students who live on the east coast can fly Southwest to these desinations and transfer to AQ... still a dream.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 8:53 am

The battle in the islands continue... another 50 years?

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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 4:58 pm

Glad to hear. Hope they come up to ANC this summer.

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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sat May 11, 2002 11:27 pm

I flew them OAK-LAS on one of their 737-700's last summer. It was a very nice plane, and a neat change of pace with flying them on the mainland. It was almost like flying a foreign carrier on a domestic flight.
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RE: Aloha To Phoenix

Sun May 12, 2002 6:29 am

Who would want to compete with WN in the PHX to SNA run or anywhere for that matter. AQ's customers had better be real loyal.

Well at least for AQ, WN doesnt transfer bags to reciprocals. That should help AQ a little.

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