layitontheline
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Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Fri May 17, 2002 9:20 pm

http://www.torontostar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1021068131620&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News


I guess that u have to do what u have to do when times are tough.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Fri May 17, 2002 9:37 pm

There are a lot of things worse then working in a Home Depot.

Hell I spend enough of my paychecks in there, I should know Laugh out loud
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:25 am

Here's what some of my furloughed pals are doing:

Home Depot
Masonry
Car Salesman
"Mr. Mom"
Unemployed

And by the way, "Matt D" -- cheap shot. I presume you plan on getting involved in aviation?

Doug Taylor
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:43 am

Ummm....I don't think so.

I'm actually in the energy business and doing quite well.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:52 am

You're with Enron, right?
 Smile

Kidding, of course. They'll all be back in the air soon.
It's an inherent risk you take when working for an airline--furloughs. They knew it and accepted the risk. One of the reasons I chose a profession that is recession proof!

How do they stay current if they are out for six or more months?
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:52 am

MattD-

Excellent. Be a little kinder to aviation folks because this, after all, is THEIR domain.

Doug Taylor
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:56 am

energy biz huh? Whats that, solar??

Don't take yourselves too importantly. A job is a job.
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Delta737
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 12:59 am

Actually, I think a greatly important job is a garbage truck driver!

Could you imagine a world without trash pickup?  Smile

Doug Taylor
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 1:06 am

Hey wasnt this guy on that flight in the cockpit video from a couple years back? It was Royal A310 Toronto-London Stansted. Im sure of it. Anyone else know what im talking about?
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Matt D....

Sat May 18, 2002 1:30 am

How about a little compassion forr those in an industry devestated by September 11th.

I'm sure this unemployed gentleman is paying his bills by working at Home Depot. He's probably very short on cash and making it by on savings hoping to return before his money runs out.

Your shorsighted comments are in poor taste considering recent events.

I'm not saying HD is a bad job, But I'm sure it doesnt support the lifestyle he bought into.... His mortgage was based on his income at the time at what was considered as steady employment as you can find in the industry when times were good.

So have a little compason for someone who I'm sure can't pay his bills.

Been there done that. I'm the king of furlough..... Believe me it sucks beyond imagination.

JET
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 3:32 am

I don't get it... what did Matt D say to get you guys all riled up?

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 4:22 am

MattD - Petroleum?  Smile

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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 8:44 am

In his typical flamebait fashion...MattD's post was quickly deleted. I don't need to see it.....

When can we get a dis-respected users list?....
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 11:20 am

I am impressed at the pilot who would work at HD or anywhere else for that matter. I know some pilots that are out of work that can't possibly think about not doing anything...but flying!! They don't want to consider any work that is non aviation, some are trying to be flight instructors for next to nothing..none of it makes sense to me. For god's sake, get a real job, any job out there is a real job, even Home Depot, esp. when you have a family to support. With my one friend, I always respected his airline career, now that it is on hold, I thought he was more well rounded than to keep trying to fly as an instructor getting 20k a year. It is almost obsessive.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 3:31 pm

$20,000 as an instructor? Hell, in my best year as a CFI I barely cracked $9,000.

I don't know a furloughee that hasn't jumped on ANY job opportunity yet. Either flying or non-flying. There's a guy from Delta doing carpentry.

Home Depot is not McDonalds. Whenever I go there with a question, they're on it like crazy. I wish the airlines would look at Home Depot's customer service and implement EVERYTHING.

I think largely, the problem is that quite a few civilians, including myself, majored in aviation-related degree programs. When you can't get hired as a pilot, an aviation degree is just something pretty that you hang on your wall.

MattD took a cheap shot, I got angry and until the last furlough is back at work, I'll do what i can to stand up for them.

As "holier than thou" than that statement sounds, I know they'd do it for me.

Doug Taylor
Part of the aviation fraternity.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sat May 18, 2002 7:29 pm

>>Home Depot is not McDonalds. Whenever I go there with a question, they're on it like crazy. I wish the airlines would look at Home Depot's customer service and implement EVERYTHING.<<

I'm guessing that you've just seen their commercials, haven't you?

Working in a mom/pop hardware store, I know that Home Depot is the bottom of the barrel in terms of customer service. Many(I won't say all) employees barely know the stuff in their department, let alone the entire store. If they don't know it, they'll send you to what might be the proper department, by just telling you to go to aisle whatever(1-50) and asking there. From what I've experienced, I'm usually asking in three departments, from coming into the store until I get the one thing I need.

Where I work, we are taught the basics of everything in the store, and then the specifics on different areas(we have three guys that know plumbing, several that know hardware, a couple in paint and gardening, one in furniture, etc.). I work in cleansers/polishers for example, knowing the best for just about any situation. If an employee can't do it, s/he personally finds the person that can.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 8:06 am

Sushka,

It is the gentleman who was in the ROY A310 video.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 8:19 am

In addition to being in the Royal 310 video Neil was our union president and a great guy to work with.
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 10:27 am

Neil was truly one of the best people around at Royal and C3. Really stood out among the croud in the last few days before C3's shutdown.
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 10:45 am

Hey MattD-
Ifyou'reintheenergybusinessandhappytobetherewhydon'tyoujointheenergybusinessforums
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 11:39 am

I have a lot of sympathy for these guys who are having to make due while the economy is in a downturn, but there are lots of people doing the same thing. I consider myself very lucky that I wasn't nailed in the tech downturn, and if I was, I'd expect to be doing the same thing that these guys are -- find something to make money and survive.

Anyone affected by 9/11 or the economy in general deserves some sympathy, but let's face some facts: terrorism or no terrorism, the airline industry was in the tank, and furloughs would have happened courtesy of Osama or not. Same thing of other industries in the economy.

Yes, Home Depot sucks for an ex-pilot, but it sucks for an ex-broker and an ex-Net Admin and an ex-teacher too. Let's keep this in perspective.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 1:18 pm

FlashMeister;
Good point. There are thousands of people out there affected by economic downturns far too often in this era we live in, and, they all deserve out sympathy. However, seeing as this is an aviation forum, it stands to reason that we aviation enthusiasts are gonna express our sentiments about those affected in this field. It's not that we don't have any consideration for others in all the other industries that have been hit, (I'm sure many of us know or is related to someone affected) but, because we're here to deal with aviation related topics our primary focus will be on those affected in the aviation industry.

Cheers!

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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 2:45 pm

MAJOR CORRECTION.... Pilot hiring was the best I had seen in my ten year long career. The regional were almost hiring you based if you had a valid drivers license.

All the majors had no one on furlough, and were hiring at a steady pace.... save US Airways.

Some companies were hit in the downturn of the economy but the hiring was still moderate.

JET
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Sun May 19, 2002 10:46 pm

JETPILOT:

I hate to be a contrarian, but the industry was about to be hit pretty hard by the economic downturn, Sept. 11th simply accelerated the process. This may sound morbid, but the best example of the shape the industry was in can be found in the number of empty seats on the aircraft used in the attacks. These were becoming typical loads on what had once been a very busy east-west traffic corridor. AA, UA et al were not going to be able to sustain that type of load factor forever.
 
layitontheline
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 2:46 am

This pilot will fly again, dont u guys worry.
 
layitontheline
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 5:19 am

Does anyone know where I can buy those videos?
 
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 6:05 am

Hey you gotta do what you have to do to survive and earn cash. I got laid off from my management consulting job some time ago and I've been writing business plans for "adult entertainment" companies.... gawd I love LA!
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 9:03 am

If you get a flying job.........do not feel secure in it. Continually look to tranfer over to one of the stronger carriers, even if you have to give up your left seat. UPS, FedEx, Southwest, etc. etc. These are the type of "pilot friendly" air carriers that everyone should aspire to become part of. If not, then you WILL get furloughed/laid off sometime during your career. Note:.......Fly cargo.

Do not sign the big mortgage or buy the sports car until you are secure in your job/company. Get rid of the wife before you start making the big cash that she can tap into for spousal support payments..........move to a third world country, drink 30 cent beer, live on a sail boat, pay $200/month docking fees, wear bananna hammocks, date a 20 y.o.,..............and you will enjoy being a middle-aged pilot who had to eat a lot of S**t sandwichs to finally get here.

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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 9:30 am

I know a NWA pilot that was a pilot for 5 years that got laid off, and now he does security screening at MSP.

Continental
 
layitontheline
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 9:02 pm

There is a added benefit to being a pilot, in times like this when you are laid off you can move to a different country and pursue your career there as you have the training and expertise to do so.
 
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Mon May 20, 2002 9:10 pm

i praise this pilot, he may have lost his job but he got another one and he's out there working.

two thumbs up!

HOOroo
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layitontheline
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RE: Laid Off Pilot Now Working At Home Depot

Tue May 21, 2002 3:46 am

I wish Marc Sharp the best of luck in his future endeavours and hopefully he will "land" himself in a major airline real soon. I admire the fact that he has taken up a job at the home depot.

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