funny
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Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 1:51 am

Wassup guys,
Can anyone explain to me how the approach goes in ronald reagan intl goes after Sept 11th. I heard from my father thats its really weird with loads of turns and twists towards the end.

I've heard that the planes line up for rwy 01 and then break for 33 in the last minute.

Can anyone help?

Jason
 
IAHERJ
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 2:03 am

All of the above are true except nothing has changed as far as the approaches go into DCA (Washington National). The turns on the river visual rwy 18 are to stay down the river thus avoiding noise sensative areas and the prohibited area just 2 miles from the airport. Planes (mostly turboprops) do shoot the river visuals and break off for rwy 33 at times just like they did prior to 9/11. The departure out of National to the North changed shortly after the airport reoppened and the noise abaitment procedure was eliminated but it is now back in practice by most airlines.

I've only been into DCA twice and maybe some USAir guys/gals who operate in and out of the airport the most might be able to add some more information.
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VASI
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 3:47 am

I've done an approach once in 1996. That was one of the most breathtaking landings I ever experienced. Seconds before landing the pilot flying did a sharp right turn and bounced the plane on the runway which was going up in the air again for two or three seconds. After touching the runway again, full reverse thrust and I guess max. brake was applied!

Sorry for not having further details on the current approach profile!

VASI
 
gocaps16
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 8:05 am

Well, after Sept 11 they discontinued with the river visual 19 approach. Even on nice clear sunny days they will use the LDA 19 approach.

Kevin/DCA
 
PizzaPolli
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 8:09 am

Its National, not Int'l.
 
sunilgupta
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Mon May 20, 2002 10:23 am

The river approaches are back as of a few weeks ago. I guess they are confident in the Sky Marshal’s ability to thwart lunatics.

The 01 approach with the break to 33 is common. It has nothing to do with 9/11. This helps them to get aircraft in and out faster. I was pissed off the other day as the final Frontier 737-300 that I need lined up on 01 and then was told to loop over to 33… argh.

Sunil

 
funny
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Wed May 22, 2002 2:12 am

Sorry Mr. PizzaPolli perfect,
Jason
 
IAHERJ
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Wed May 22, 2002 3:59 am

If you look at the LDA 19 approach, it still takes you right down the river and requires a sharp turn on short final under 1,000 feet to line up with the runway. There are less small turns down the river but the view is the same.
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gocaps16
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RE: Ronald Reagan Intl Approach

Wed May 22, 2002 7:01 am

IAHERJ, yes, you are correct. After Sept. 11, they mention it will be a "straight In" approach when using RWY 19 but I guess they used the LDA/LOC to guide the pilots to the runway, that way the ATCer don't have to worry about the pilots landing visual.

Kevin/DCA

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