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747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 10:44 pm

Ever wandered what a747 with a tail engine will look like? -take a look at the bottom right corner.
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 10:50 pm

Hmmm..I've seen that a million times already. It's a mock-up of a 747/DC-10 used to train firefighters.

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 11:25 pm

Humm, so they took the front end of a 747 and stitched the back end of a DC-10 onto it? I wonder for what reason. Why not just use a whole 747?
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 11:28 pm

It's probably just one of those things, they just did it and there you have it.

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 11:36 pm

Asgiers:
I think they put a tail engine with the 747 front end to train the firefighters with tail-engine fire situations. No sense in building two mock-ups when they could just use the one hybrid! Very clumsy looking, but it gets the job done.
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Mon May 20, 2002 11:57 pm

There go the crew's sleeping quarters!
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 12:37 am

http://www.aviationpics.de/test/test.htm
Look at this bird, seems to be a 747SP with a tail engine!
 
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 1:51 am

I saw that aircraft on Airport, on BBC1 last year - they set it on fire then the airport firefighters had to put it out Big thumbs up

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 1:57 am

Jaspike i saw that too Big grin

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 1:59 am

It's just a pure mock-up, no real aircraft parts at all.
 
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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 2:47 am

That "aircraft" is not a real aircraft, not even the fuselage is real. It was made for fire combat training at Schiphol. The fire department uses it to train for emergency situations. So, it's not an aircraft, just something they built to resemble an aircraft.

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 2:49 am

Sorry, I see the photo was taken at London Heathrow, but I guess the idea is the same as is the case with Schiphol. Emergency training

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 2:55 am

A long time ago in DOH (Doha, Qatar) they used a yellow school bus with a tail, small wings and two engines fitted on the back of the bus. It looks so funny Big grin . It still there, if you drive past the airport fence you could still see it.

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 2:59 am

lol, I'd like to see that! Big thumbs up

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 8:09 am

The a/c (??) was also featured on 'Tomorrows World' On BBC1 when it first went into service. It's the most advanced fire training system in the world (or was when it was first built). It also has a mock cabin interior (seats are metal to stop them melting) so the fire crews have a more realistic scenario when entering the a/c to find survivors/bodys, and also a staircase to the u/deck.
As other people have said, it is not made of any real a/c parts, but was built to represent the most common commercial widebody a/c fuselage/engine configurations, so it's a bit of everything.

The fire's are controlled from a small room/bunker nearby and also by remote control so the training officers can make any combination of possible a/c fire at the press of a button. Fire's are produced by a network of gas pipes running thru the structure.

Sometimes at LHR you might see the fire engines charging over to that direction (usually at quiet times of day) for a spot of regular training.

Also for those of you LHR regulars, did you know they had to dismantle it and repositon it, so that the VS hanger could be built ???.

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RE: 747 With A Tail Engine.

Tue May 21, 2002 11:01 am

This may sound strange (but, then again, so do many things these days), but Boeing actually proposed a trijet derivative of the venerable Jumbo - one engine under each wing and a low-profile oval duct in a shortened tail. It was, in my opinion, one of the ugliest designs - no match for the DC-10 or L-1011.
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