Ndebele
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 3:37 am

Nice one. But the "speedmarque" is too high, it should be on window-level. And neither engines nor winglets have the world images - that why it is called World *Tails*.

A BA A330 order is just like an LH A330 order: a never-ending rumour, nothing more.
 
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 3:37 am

Quite interesting but why did they do that to tail and winglets? Looks less realistic with that on...
 
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 3:42 am

Sorry, should have said earlier, not my work!

I do quite like the livery though....!
 
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 3:47 am

Why would BA order the A330 when they already have the 777? Wouldn't adding a new tyoe of aircraft just add to their operationg cost?
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 3:50 am

Ndebele

Never say Never !!

It's believed that LH are about to borrow the spare bmi A330 for trials on their A300 routes.

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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 7:24 am


Capt Pickard.

Shame on you (LOL). BA and Boeing for longhaul. Maybe A330 for shorthaul but stay away from those Airbus for longhaul. Like the rose on the engines though?????
 
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 7:47 am

Where do people get this BA Airbus shorthaul, Boeing longhaul idea from? It always makes me smile  Big grin It's not a rule set in stone, you don't have to go far back into British Airways' history to find the DC-10, TriStar, BAC1-11, BAeATP, B737-200...

While British Airways appears to be moving towards a more Airbus oriented shorthaul fleet and a Boeing dominated longhaul fleet, I don't think you can say which way any future 767 replcement orders will go because this aircraft operates both long and shorthaul flights for the company, so either the A330 or the B767 would fit in with the company's fleet plan.

As it is I don't think BA is in a hurry to replace the 767 because they're not old, and size-wise they appear to be right for the routes they serve. Plus these aren't the most marketable aircraft due to their Rolls Royce engines which make them pretty unique.

The only real problem being with the 767 it will be difficult to offer the full 4-class product on these aircraft, particularly the new Club World, due to the cabin width. Plus the recent A321 order will hasten the 757s departure, making the 767 something of a stand-alone fleet in terms of operation and crewing (At BA pilots are 757/767 cross qualified)

As the fleet currently stands the shorthaul fleet comprises;
(A318-100)
A319-100
A320-200
(A321-200)
B737-300
B737-400
B737-500
B757-200
B767-300

And the longhaul fleet
B767-300
B777-200
B747-400
Concorde

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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 7:59 am

As it is I don't think BA is in a hurry to replace the 767 because they're not old, and size-wise they appear to be right for the routes they serve. Plus these aren't the most marketable aircraft due to their Rolls Royce engines which make them pretty unique.

Plus the recent A321 order will hasten the 757s departure

Nope, 757s are still of to DHL and others, and some are staying.

The 737s are on the way out. The inter-european fleet will be vastly Airbus, with only the remaining 757s and a few 767s left over.

The longhaul fleet is obviously Boeing.

BA is pretty liquid at the moment, but obvious any aircraft purchase is a long way away. Don't expect the A330.
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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 8:23 am

The only 757's that are leaving for DHL are the RB211-535C powered right? Unless someone knows of them getting rid of the 535E4's????

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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 9:23 am

All the RB211-535C powered 757s, registered in the G-BIK_ and G-BMR_ series are going to DHL, with the final aircraft, G-BIKT scheduled for withdrawal in October.

RB211-535E4 powered 757s G-BPEA, G-BPEB, and G-CPEP have already left the fleet, G-BPEC will be withdrawn in October. The rest of the 757s are to stay for now - but BA recently switched 4 A318 orders for A321s. didn't they? It would appear reasonable that the ordered A321s will be used to start to replace the remaining 757 fleet, which by year-end will consist of just 15 units...

Of course the 767 replacement is a long way off, and while the A330 is unlikely - I don't think you can take it out of the equation for the future yet.

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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 9:47 am

Sorry,

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RE: The Truth Outs: BA A330 Emerges From Shadows...

Tue May 21, 2002 9:58 am

Sigh, i really really really detest their new paint, what was wrogn with the old paint iwth the Gray and the emblem on the tail? Oh well, the aircraft looks ok.
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