717fan
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SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 2:15 am

Will SAS add more MD-90's to its fleet? Once they had planned something like this, I think. IMO this would be a logical step: They can replace older MD-80's with MD-90's who are waiting in the desert and who might be very cheap...
What do you think?
 
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 2:20 am

I had thought they were in fact, trying to dispose of them.
A321s are arriving......
Hence, no MD-90s have been painted in the new livery.
Correct me if wrong.
I would certainly like to see at least one in the new livery!
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rwy31r
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 2:28 am

Unfortunatlly MD-90's are very un-popular. Airlines who own it (eg. SV) are not happy with it. SAS went with 737NG (competitor to the MD-90) as well as A321. I don't see them aqiuring more MD-90, even with thier cheap price tag.
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Ndebele
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 2:37 am

It's true, I never heard of SAS planning to add additional MD-90s. But on the other hand, I never heard of SAS planning to retire their present MD-90 fleet. The fact that no MD-90 has been painted in the new livery yet has been discussed on this forum a few weeks ago: SAS seems to repaint their aircraft only after heavy maintenance, and the MD-90s obviously have not yet been due for that. You can see a few MD-80s as well in the old livery.

Btw, are there really large numbers of MD-90s parked in the desert? I can't think of any airline that retired more than maybe one or two MD-90s. What airlines/aircraft are you talking about?
 
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 3:11 am

I got some news (not sure if they will be correct) but the first MD90 (SE-DMH) will go for repaint on July the 6th. 3 more MD90 are scheduled for repaint during July this year. But we have to wait to see if this will be correct.
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 3:27 am

The day's of the MD-90 in service are numbered. Delta is planing to dispose of there's by 2005 if I'm not mistaken. The ex-Reno MD-90's that AA returned to Boeing last year are still siting in the desert the last I heard. If you go to Boeing's web site and look up aircraft for lease there still listed. If SAS wanted more of them they could get them quickly. But I don't think they will.
In fact when I worked in Long Beach for Boeing there was a letter from SAS posted stating how disappointed they were with the aircraft.

Rwy31R said they are unpopular with the airlines that have them. This is very true, I know from experience. The main problem with it is the VSCF electrical system. It looked good in paper, but in service it's a pain.

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717fan
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 4:59 am

Ndebele, 5 ex-AA, 3 ex-AirAruba and 2 or 3 ex-AMC of Egypt are somewhere in the desert, and I think Saudi Arabian has also parked 2....
 
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 5:04 am

Why are they so unpopular?Poor range?
 
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 7:09 am

SAS is actually happy with the MD-90, and looked at procuring used MD-90's, They looked at the 5 ex-QQ/AA machines but opted against due to a lack of cockpit commonality.

The MD-90 has the same basic engine as the SAS A321, so there is some commonality in addition to the MD-80 fleet.
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 2:59 pm

As far as I´ve heard SAS has not given up the idea of purchasing additional - obviously second hand - MD-90s as replacement for the MD-87 fleet (as well as older MD-81, -82 and -83s). However not many aircraft are available for sale or lease. The ex-QQ/AA machines was to my knowledge not taken up due to price. However there might be something on the lack of cockpit commonality as well. Anyway I personally like the MD-90s very much as they offer a very, very silent cabin environment.
 
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Wed May 22, 2002 3:54 pm

Donder10:

The main reason the MD-90's unpopularity is it's poor reliability compared to other airliners. Also it's not as efficient when compared to the 737NG or the A320.
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rwy31r
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RE: SAS MD-90's

Tue May 28, 2002 11:53 pm

Well speaking for SV, I know that pilots are not happy with the flight systems offered on the MD-90 (specially after knowing that they were so close from flying 737NG). SV are not pleased with MD-90 capabilities on landing at many Saudi airports. I have heared that Boeing has discussed 717 and/or 736 as replacements for all or some of the 29 in service with SV. Personally I don't see that happening.
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