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Sat May 25, 2002 4:48 am

what is it here in Dubai and Europe, security screening and workers have to be highly educated while in USA they dont even have high school at times?
i am not trying to flame here, but i am really curious to know why?
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RE: Security

Sat May 25, 2002 8:27 am

Because most of the rest of the world took aviation security more seriously than the americans did until 11/9, as the americans really did not see themselves as a target.
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RE: Security

Sat May 25, 2002 12:13 pm

Our problem is that we [the officials] can't think outside the box. The American public expected a new "breed" of security screener, but what we got was basically the same people. According to FAA tests, even after 9/11, 60%-70% of explosives STILL get through security, and 30% of guns even get through (I would love for someone to explain to me how this is humanly possible, unless the screeners watching the x-ray screens are literally blind!)

Anyway, I was going through SAT today, which, admittedly, seemed more throrugh than most other airports. My shoe kept setting off the metal detector. The screener handwanded my shoe and said "you have a metal strip in this shoe, that's why it keeps going off". I asked him if he wanted to X-ray it, and he said "no". How does he know that "metal strip" wasn't a knife? (it wasn't, but how does he know that?)

One thing I noticed today that I didn't notice before: the screeners were screening themselves!
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RE: Security

Sat May 25, 2002 10:21 pm

Security people are in direct contact with passengers. At most European airports the majority are international travellers, that makes that in order to communicate with the travelling public screeners should speak multiple languages. Non educated people wont be able to do that most of the time. In the US english is spoken, no need to speak another language (atleast that's the general attitude there).
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RE: Security

Sat May 25, 2002 10:46 pm


I see where you are coming from, but I don't think that is entirely true, I know in UK most security staff don't speak any other languages, and also in Spain when I've travelled thru, they don't seem to either, or France. I know they do have some people that are able to speak other languages, but most don't, and in the US there are alot of hispanics, so they would probably have Spanish speakers also.

I think the main reason is that in Europe it is considered a higher status (more important) job than it was in the US, until just recently, therefore attracting better wages thus attracting more highly educated people, as it's not a minimum wage job like in the US.
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