Alessandro
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767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:35 pm

Oh boy, according to Swedish media an 767 from Orlando that was heading to
Manchester had go back because the wing start to crack, a passenger saw a
hole in the wing and metal peaces flying from it.
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Alessandro
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:40 pm

Link in Swedish http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id=109897 the article
claim it was 318 onboard the plane.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:45 pm

Link in english http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_595256.html?menu=
it was a Air2000 plane.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:49 pm

What airline was it?
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:50 pm

anyone have more details
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It has landed safely right? Today is already a very sad day ... Sad
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 7:56 pm

i hope this isn't true as i'm due to fly on AMM 767 in 4 wks. Doesn't exactly instill peace of mind in me at all!
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 9:07 pm

I posted this a bit earlier with the topic "hole in the wing?"

As the news coming out is not very high profile it was probably pieces falling off the wing that doesn't really qualify for a "rea emergency".

Things like that happens now and then I've been told........

Scary even so.
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 9:24 pm

ooooo that's weird! When I saw the title I knew it would be AMM! Don't know why.......!

Does anyone know which of their 763s it was?
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 9:31 pm

was this a week or so ago when they substituted an Air Atlanta 747 on the SFB-BHX as the BHX bound 767 was given over to the MAN flight? (or something along those lines!)


yikes..i'm not the best of flyers since i had a chilling experience on a Spanair 767 over the atlantic, so i hope i keep calm!!!!

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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sat May 25, 2002 9:34 pm

I had an experience on a Spanair 767 over the atlantic, it was not being able to move!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy (kinda cramped)
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Ground The 767 Now!

Sat May 25, 2002 11:37 pm

Bet u won't hear AA pilots saying that. Ah well i am glad evryone was safe, any idea if this is a problem with all the 767s?
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 2:56 am

"As the news coming out is not very high profile it was probably pieces falling off the wing that doesn't really qualify for a "rea emergency"."


I dont know what your talking about but in any circumstances peices should not be falling off an aircraft from any part. Also the attitude shouldnt be taken that this is not such a big deal because if manegment starts realizing no one really thinks its serious why should they care.
 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:02 am

Which AMM 763 was it?

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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:07 am

good call LanPeru,

Ground all 767s now! Big grin Same goes for the 747, since we dont now what caused todays crash.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:09 am

Not to mention the 777. Just because a crash hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:16 am

777236ER don't you think that is tempting fate a little?
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:27 am

I'll bet it was "just a wing panel coming loose". Although it should not happen, it's a long way off from a cracked wing! If a wing would crack to such an extent that the pax could see it, he [or she] would not live to tell.

If it's only ONE wing panel, its perfectely safe. Airliners are designed and proven safe to fly in this condition. But I admit, if I would witness such an event [having a degree in aeronautical engineering], I don't think I would be 100% comfortable...

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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:30 am

Captain.md-11, note the irony. Of course the 777 shouldn't be grounded and of course the 767 shouldn't be grounded. Some people shouldn't be alarmist.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:38 am

777236ER,

By these "some people" I suppose that you are reffering to the pilots of American airlines and... offcourse the A300 shouldn't be grounded.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 3:52 am

The AA pilots and others who demand that an aircraft should be grounded after a crash. Of course the A300 shouldn't be grounded. It's perfectly safe and it's a pretty successful aircraft, even if it is getting old.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 5:04 am


Of course, one crash does not make a whole FAMILY unsafe, it's just ignorance that take you that far ( or politics hee hee). I am VERY happy that the 767 was ok, I love the 767 just like I love the A330. Fortunatley, nothing has happened to the newer place except for dumb errors.
 
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And Now For What Really Happened . . .

Sun May 26, 2002 7:49 am

This is a post lifted from PPRuNE, which explains the incident, posted by SFly an engineer at Sanford.

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And now for what really happened . .

The aircraft took off from KSFB, and a portion of the tire came apart. It was believed to have gone through a slot in the flaps (as they were obviously still extended). It caused severe damage to the spoiler system on that wing. The passenger in question saw the tire bit come away and alerted the captain, who rightly returned to the airport. The passengers flew out the next day on a subchartered 747 from Air Atlanta and the aircraft was AOG at Orlando Sanford for a few days. The spoiler was damaged pretty badly and Boeing sent a new one from Seattle, which was installed and the aircraft left safely, returning to service with Air 2000.

The passengers were never in any real danger, they were just inconvenienced for a while.

You all know better than to listen to journalist rubbish now don't you?

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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 9:06 am

Here are the links others provided that are now activated. No idea if the sites work or not.

http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id=109897
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_595256.html?menu=
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Sun May 26, 2002 9:35 am

Wow Crosswind, thanks for the RIGHT information. You really shut these anti-Boeing bastards up with the real information. Thanks alot! (And before I get flamed by the Airbus crowed, I want to let you all know that I have respect for both companies and that competition is what makes both companies great!)

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Sxmarbury33

Sun May 26, 2002 2:37 pm

I've not said that pieces should come off an airplane.

What I was trying to suggest (and what turned out to be true if you are to believe the engineer quoted above) was that once again media is blowing something not very serious out of proportion.
When you read the newspaper report you can get the impression that the whole wing could have fallen off at any time.

Of course it's a big deal if things fall off, but in this case (as I suspected) it was a minor incident caused by a blown tire, which could probably not have been prevented by management.

And Yes, we should keep management alert to all safety and maintenance issues, but we do not do ourselves, the industry or the travelling public any favors by reporting incidents out of proportion and without the proper facts.



 
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Mon May 27, 2002 12:42 am

Bet u won't hear AA pilots saying that. Ah well i am glad evryone was safe, any idea if this is a problem with all the 767s?

Bet u if Flt 587 was a 767 these pilots would have had the same reaction.

good call LanPeru,
Ground all 767s now! Same goes for the 747, since we dont now what caused todays crash.


Inaccurate comparison. We know Flt 587 crashed due to its vertical stabilizer separating from the tail.

Of course the A300 shouldn't be grounded. It's perfectly safe and it's a pretty successful aircraft, even if it is getting old.

I agree the A300 shouldn't be grounded. But there is question to whether it or any other plane is *perfectly* safe. But some posters act haughty and indignant when their airplane is put into question.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Mon May 27, 2002 2:35 am

Thank you Crosswind for delivering the correct account of events. The nonsense "jounalistic" cr*p I have seen on this incident is laughable.
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RE: 767 Wing Started To Crack During Flight..

Mon May 27, 2002 3:42 am

I was refering to your comment about the 777 having a 100% safety record
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