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DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 8:13 am

According to Flight International (14may02), a DC10-30 has accumulated almost 118.000 hours in the log book, followed closely by a 747-200F with 115.600 hours flown....and a DC-9-10 has logged over 101.000 cycles!
This is really impressive....
Does somebody here has an idea of the registrations/operators of these veterans?
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 8:31 am

101000 cycles is impossible.

Let's say it's 25 years old ... 25*365=9125. So that means it would have completed 11 cycles each and every day. Heard to believe  Smile What do you think?

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 8:33 am

DC-9-10s are more likely to be at least 35 years old. They were designed for short, frequent flights.
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 8:37 am

Hi OO-AOG!

Were the registration numbers of the aircrafts by any change mentioned in the article?

118.000 hours - that's 13.5 years in the air !!!
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 9:52 am

Not only is 118000 hous 13.5 years in the air, its more time than most of us will spend at work. If most of us work 2000 hours a year, then this DC-10 has put in about 59 years worth of work. Does NW still fly DC-9-10s? What about Aeromexico or Aerocalifornia? Who else could it be?

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 10:09 am

I thought I read somewhere that Midwest Express operates the high time DC-9, a -14 model manufactured in 1966. Not sure of the registration (perhaps N700ME?). Can anybody confirm this?

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 10:19 am

N3310L had 100,596 cycles by December 1995, N93S had 101,383 cycles when sold to Sandia labs in 1998. N92S had 101,884, N94S had 101,060, N91S had 103,135 before they were retired in December 1998. Since NW still has DC-9-10s in service, I imagine these numbers have been surpassed.
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 3:34 pm

Some of the retired LH 742s had more than 100,000 hours, I think D-ABYQ (now scrapped in HHN) was the highest.

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 4:48 pm

I think the high time DC-10 is N220NW, which had long carriers at Swissair (ex HB-IHC) and Northwest. It had already 109.000 hours in 1999 (high time DC-10 at the time) and it continued in daily transatlantic service since. I flew with it last summer from Miami to Amsterdam and it looked great. But a few months ago it has been withdrawn.
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 9:11 pm

I remember when the Aloha 737 lost its roof back in the late '80s and was reported to have accumulated over 90,000 cycles.
It's the cycles which cause the most wear and tear whereas the high hours (combined with low cycles) are much easier to bear...so to speak.
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 11:12 pm

Most of TWA's 747s had reached the 100K mark by the time they were retired. N93109 was the first to do it. The only one I can think of that didn't hit 100K was N93119, which had over 93,000 hrs when she was lost in 1996.

In addition to the ex-NW DC-9-10, the aging aircraft research program at Sandia has an ex-BA 747-136 with over 100,000 hours.

 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Tue May 28, 2002 11:51 pm

You'd expect to see high hours on long haul aircraft - and high cycles on short haul ones. It's the cycles, not the time, that's the determining factor - if you are doing avarega sectors of 6 hours you could have 120,000 hours but only 20,000 cycles - and if your average sector is 30 minutes you could have 50,000 hours but 100,000 cycles.

Of course, at the end of the day, it comes down to a combination of how well the aircraft are designed and built (Lockheed and Douglas are tops here) and of course how well they are maintained.
 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 1:36 am

exnonrev ,

Are you sure N93109 was the first to log 100,000 hrs ? I thought it was a Korean 747. Where did you get the info ?

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 6:12 am

I think the Hawaiian DC9s could have done that many cycles, given the short duration of an inter-island flight.
 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 6:28 am

N3310L, N91S, N92S, and N94S were all operated by Southern Airways in the early stages of their lives :

N3310L from 8/73 to 7/79
N91S from 5/67 to 7/79 (was leased outside for one year during that time)
N92S from 6/67 to 7/79
N94S from 2/68 to 7/79

As we all know, Southern Airways operated very short flights with quick turnarounds in the southeast US before they merged with North Central in 1979 to form Republic, which later was merged into Northwest: so the lineage was definitely there.

Tom in NO (at MSY)

PS: I've got a picture of N3310L I took at ORD in '79 (Southern colors) on my office wall, I'd be interested to know how many hours and cycles it ended up with before it was retired.
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 6:42 am

N93109 was the first of the -131s to hit 100K. Sorry for any confusion.
 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 7:28 am

Midwest Express' N700ME is the oldest DC9 with almost 100,000 hours and cycles. It may be their oldest, but it is not their highest time/cycles plane. I think N80ME has that honor.
 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 8:03 am

so which a/c hit 100k first and on what date ?

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 11:44 am

N93109 was the first aircraft in history to pass 100,000 hours. It occurred on May 1, 1996.
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RE: NWA's Centurions And Others

Wed May 29, 2002 2:00 pm

After spending a couple of hours searching FAA Service Difficulty Reports (which have required hours and cycles to be reported since late 2000), I've come across a few more of Northwest's "Centurion" DC-10s:

N211NW - 113005 hr/21289 cy as of 24 Feb 02
N223NW - 109502/25925 9 Jan 01
N225NW - 110363/25468 28 Nov 01
N227NW - 100451/22937 21 Nov 01
N230NW - 109111/26482 16 Jul 01

N220NW, mentioned in an earlier post, had 115363 hr/27071 cy as of her last SDR filed 3 May 01.

At the time Continental's DC-10s were retired shortly after 9/11, several 100K DC-10s were on the property:

N14062 - 105732/21242 22 Mar 01
N14063 - 101317/21869 24 Feb 01
N12064 - 105379/22340 29 Sep 01
N14079 - 97096/21484 3 Nov 00
N59083 - 105146/21500 15 Aug 01
N17085 - 101050/18899 28 Aug 01

MidEx's Baby Nines haven't quite hit the 100K cycle mark:
N300ME - 72614/60434 4 Dec 01
N500ME - 75696/82558 5 May 02
N700ME - 82722/76367 25 Apr 02
N800ME - 89903/91496 22 Dec 01
N900ME - 75914/90188 15 Feb 02
 
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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Wed May 29, 2002 10:05 pm

AeroCalifornia has the DC9 with more cycles in the world:

DC9-15 XA-RKT (Del Date: 12/67)
DC9-15 XA-RNQ (Del Date: 05/67)

Both have more than 94,000 cycles...

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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Fri May 31, 2002 7:33 pm

According to Boeing data as of 3/31/02 here are some of the still in operation fleet leaders in hours and cycles.

B737
Hours - Lan Chile CC-CSI - 92398 hrs
Cycles - Aero Continente OB-1748 - 93111 cyc

B747
Hours - KLM PH-BUI - 112121 hrs
Cycles - ANA JA8146 - 36997 cyc

B757
Hours - Monarch G-MONB - 66802 hrs
Cycles - DHL G-BIKC - 33488 cyc

B767
Hours - Airborne N702AX - 74349 hrs
Cycles - ANA JA8240 - 36225 cyc

B777
Hours - United - N768UA - 28889 hrs
Cycles - JAL - JA8982 - 12081 cyc


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RE: DC10 With 118,000 Hours!

Fri May 31, 2002 9:48 pm

PH-BUI - 112121 hrs ?!


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