bobcat
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Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 2:54 am

MSNBC just reported that a China Airlines 737-800 had a tail strike at Kaohsiung Airport(KHH?) in southern Taiwan island today.(around 230pm 5/28, Taiwan local time)

The 737-800, reg# B-18608, was delivered to China Airlines on Dec. 2, 1998. It flies both domestic and int'l flights.

It is shown here.(photo by member AirNikon)

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The tail struck the runway during take-off. Several passengers reported hearing "scraping, banging noise" just as the plane's nose lifte off the ground.

The plane carried 150 people(crew and pax) and everyone made it to Taipei airport(TPE) safely.

The damage is said to be minor but the Taiwan air safety authroties have started an investigation.


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AWspicious
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:01 am

I imagine tail strikes (though generally not good for the aircraft and rather un-nerving for the passengers) aren't all that uncommon in the aviation industry. Now that China Airlines is under a news media microscope, they won't be able to fart without somone reporting what they had for breakfast.

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bobcat
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:06 am

by the way, it said the left side tail elevator was also damaged... in addition to the bottom of the fuselage tail.

can someone point out to me which is the elevator? Is it the outer or inner section of the tail?
 
AirT85
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:09 am

The elevator is the set of "little wings" that stick out from the side of the fuselage below the vertical stab. Also, China Airlines has pretty much assumed the role of the former Valujet. They have a disastrous safety record, everyone knows it, and no matter where they go form here-no one will let them forget. Its a shame, because they could technically stil be saved, all though they have many problems to work out. The cancellation of the DL codeshare isn't going to help either, although it is smart on DL's part.
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N79969
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:09 am

The elevator is the moving trailing edge of the horizontal stabilizer (mini-wings in back). It is attached to the empennage (rear of fuselage) and is really not part of the tail.
 
bobcat
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:29 am

Can the pilots feel it up there in the cockpit? Should they return to the airport?(perhaps a fly-by so the tower can tell them how bad it it?)
 
dc-10 levo
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:44 am

That wasn't the plane that a member of airliners.net was going on was it?
I remember a couple of days back, a member posted a topic: "Should I Fly CI?"
And people told him to! He also mentioned he was flying on a 737!


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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 3:55 am

They should always return to the airport. Tailstrikes can lead to rear pressure bulkhead damage, which could be catastrophic once the a/c started to presurise.
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hkg82
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 4:24 am

DC-10 Levo:
No, that member, can't remember his nickname, is scheduled to fly from Medan to Penang on the 738 this coming Sunday as far as I know. But what a freakish coincidence it would've been!

I have a feeling that even if CI611 hadn't crashed CI would've nevertheless come under scrutiny, because their safety record is just that bad.

Hkg82.
 
Soku39
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 5:55 am

Actually its an incident if their are no fatalities but please make the airline look as bad as possible.  Big grin
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 6:00 am

"Now that China Airlines is under a news media microscope, they won't be able to fart without somone reporting what they had for breakfast."

Hahahahahahahahaha good one AWspicious
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 6:21 am

Soku39:

Check your definitions. Someone doesn't need to be hurt or killed for it to be an accident. This one is an accident, because there was significant structural damage to the aircraft during flight operations. While it might not look like it to the untrained eye, a tail strike almost always costs in the millions of dollars to repair.
 
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RE: Another One! China Airlines Accident,737-800 Today

Wed May 29, 2002 7:51 am

Sorry, I should have used the word "ACCIDENT" at all,
...doesn't really fit the definition.

I just looked up the word "ACCIDENT" in the dictionary.

The definition for the word: "An UNEXPECTED and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm"


With China Airlines, it isn't really UNEXPECTED, is it?  Sad