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Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 7:39 am

Ilyushin96M started a great topic with the Baywatch B747 crash, something I always meant to discuss in this forum: Airplanes in movies and the lack of research most producers show when making all these dumb mistakes, where when I (and most of you probably the same way) see this, I just have to shake my head. The most common one I find that when someone takes off in one kind of an airplane and then lands at the destination with a completely different one.
My favorite one is Air Force One, what a piece of junk that movie was from the perspective of someone who knows airplanes. The best scene was when the President regains control of the airplane after the all night battle with the terrorists. The intial goal for the terrorists was to hijack the airplane to Kasakstan; well after the battle Harrison Ford's goal was to fly back to Turkey which obviously is located west from Kasakstan, but the airplane was heading directly into the rising sun, which of course rises in the east.

Anyway, I want to hear about some other movies where you thought that the lack of research from the producers about airplanes was more than obvious.

Regards, Boeing727
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 7:50 am

I don't think it has so much to do with lack of research; I've just noticed that in movies or TV shows, several different aircraft types may be used for one flight. For example, the film about Eastern Flight 401 - shots were taken of an L1011 and 727, though visually the aircraft are FAR from similar. Also, I've seen shows and movies in which DC-10s and L1011s were switched back and forth, and 727s and 737s as well. Most people can't tell the difference between the interior of one plane and another, and are just as hard-pressed to tell a 727 from an L1011. But visually, who can mistake a t-tail aircraft for one with a low tailplane? Or a widebody for a narrow-body? I think that for the most part, producers play on the ignorance of the public with how they depict airline crashes, mishaps in the air, and planes in general. And they don't have much to worry about, because people are more interested in the plot of the movie than what is going on with the plane. All in all, anyone with any small degree of aircraft knowledge can watch a movie or TV show and see a ton of discrepancies. And by far the funniest parody of this was the movie AIRPLANE! in which the producers deliberately used prop engine noise when they showed the 707 in cruise! LOL!
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 8:38 am

In the last episode of "Seinfeld", the four characters got in a learjet on the tarmac, were shown inside a Gulfstream (because of the windows), and when they showed the plane flying around in the sky....IT WAS A HAWKER!!! Make up your minds producers!
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 8:51 am

I know I have a hard time watching these movies too. Another example is the movie that depicted the crash of Air Florida 90. The actual plane in real life and most of the time in the movie was a 737-200, but the scene where the plane hits the bridge shows an eastern DC-9. Aviation is not the only movie subject with screw ups. My mom, who is an x-ray technician, gets annoyed when shows medicl shows have scenes of doctors looking at x-rays upside down.
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 9:25 am

I saw one movie where the plane got a paint job in the air. It was an Eastern aircraft. When it took off, it was in the polished metal color scheme, and when it landed it was in the white top color scheme. I have to hand it to the painters, risking their lives to repaint a plane while in flight.

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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 10:31 am

The worst I saw was in the movie "Hackers". At the end the guy is travelling New York to Tokyo non-stop in a 727. The flight attendant comes around and says the flight time to Tokyo will be be about 14 hours.
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 11:04 am

When I saw "TURBULENCE" With Ray Liotta That movie was sooooooo fake.
I mean the Avionics bay is not that of a 747-200 that is the Avionics bay of a 744. Also PASSENGER 57 was fake. you kinda get the fact that the Door comes up into the ceiling. That is not a feature on the 747's & everybody knows that a plane could not land on that runway in Lousiana. and also when that hole was in the plane every body was whooping instead of having O2 masks over there faces...

To L1011:

LOL on your funny joke, in the air Splashing paint on the plane HA HA HA
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RE: L1011's Comment And The Movie Terminator

Tue Sep 21, 1999 11:14 am

What movie was that Bob? Also, in the movie "Terminator" with Arnold Schwartznegger, (I think it was Terminator) a Western DC-10 was flying the characters to "valverde". Was this really the interior of a Western DC10? I remember they said they had three whole flight attendants aboard the DC10. I know that couldn't be true.
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RE: L1011's Comment And The Movie Terminator

Tue Sep 21, 1999 11:21 am


He jumps from the wheels before they come up or somethin like that and he falls into some swamp..
he would of died forsure in real life..
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RE: Also From Air Force One!

Tue Sep 21, 1999 11:28 am

Another unreal part in the movie AIr Force One is that
the F-15 pilot is flying beside the Boeing 747 and that he was talking to the pres. while he was flying the plane and the part when he says... That the plane had no chance of landing because of the Rudder or something like that and He was looking at Harrison Ford and He was looking at the pilot and The pilot or someone made the Salute.. NOw.. Explain....
ANd they were flying pretty far apart to..
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 12:39 pm

I remember watching one scene in a World War II movie where one type of fighter was on approach, another type touched down, and then yet a third type finished the scene in a firey crash.
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Tue Sep 21, 1999 2:29 pm

I have to join Boeing727 in his comment about the sunsets. I know this goes off the subject a little, but if you ever watched the movie "The Green Berets" with John Wayne, you will notice at the very end, the "Duke" and the little boy go walking down to the beach to see the sun set. If you know anything about geography, you will notice that in Vietnam you cant view the sunset on any beach....because the beaches all face EAST! Thats just my two cents.
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RE: Airplanes In Movies - You Want Unreal?

Tue Sep 21, 1999 11:10 pm

How's this for unreal in a movie starring an aircraft: an Aeroflot Tupolev 154 (looks like a 727, basically) flying at cruising altitude, while one of the crew members CLIMBS THROUGH THE CEILING AT THE REAR OF THE CABIN AND UP INTO THE #2 ENGINE INTAKE AND OUT ONTO THE FUSELAGE to repair a hole! C'mon, one is ignorant enough to believe that! But I have to hand it to the producers of that movie - they were at least consistent with aircraft type!
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Wed Sep 22, 1999 1:09 am

Have any of you noticed that the cockpit used in Airplane! is from a CV-880? Maybe a TWA simulator or cockpit procedure trainer?

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RE: Airplanes In Movies...Some Explanation

Wed Sep 22, 1999 5:36 am

When I went to Universal Studios I took the studio tour; They had hunks of four different a/c. They had an L-1011 with the baggage bay cutoff that was about thirty foot long, they use that for head on shots on the interior. They had a (707,727 737, the fuselage is the same) that was cut in half down the middle to do side shots of the interior. The wierdest one of all was ... well... let's call it a DCMD80b 727-80-9, it was, I'm pretty sure, the nose of an MD-80, the fuselage is a 707-727-737 the tail of a 727, the nacelles of a DC-9 and the wings of, god only knows what, obviously made out of junk, the nose was hooked on by some flashing the fuselage is about 30 ft long, the tail was tacked on badly, just funny to look at! But that's the reason the interior in one shot is different than the interior in one shot than the exterior of that ungodly mess.
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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Wed Sep 22, 1999 5:40 am

I agree with the response of saying that producers are really tupid in making movies about planes!! Not only about using different palnes but trying to shoot a 747 down and blow off the two inner engines on the aircraft and the dam thing is still flying and out witting a lear jet ( i think? ) The 747 still is flying like nothing happened and the passengeres are relatively calm!! Now thinkabout it if plane was shot at and lost two inner engines the plne would be blown to bits!!! and I know that the passengers would be as calm as they were!! oh the movie was called Pandora's Clock!!

The same thing with Stephen Kings book and movie Langlieres they used a Dc-10 In the first partand a L1011 in the second part or was it the other way around!! Oh well they will probably get it right some time!!

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RE: Airplanes In Movies...

Wed Sep 22, 1999 8:52 am

The movie "the langoliers" they actually used the same aircraft throughout the movie, but the computer generated images of the plane flying were so crappy,
and in Passenger 57, it wasnt a 747-400 it was either a DC-10 or a L1011, I cant remember because I havent seen it in awhile but I remember and engine on the tail section, I think the worst thing Ive seen in any movie was in
Liar Liar, when they were on that tower air 747, and the seating configuration
was 3-3, yet they werent on the upper deck, I was looking at that and thinking,
I wonder who they are trying to fool, I hate movies that do that.
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RE: Cody

Wed Sep 22, 1999 12:40 pm

I wish I could remember which movie it was, but it was quite a few years ago, and I've forgotten. But I do remember that scene vividly.

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