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US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 4:45 am

What US airports have exclusive, sometimes exotic, internatonal destinations that cannot be reached non-stop from any other US airport? I am sure JFK has many, but I'm especially interestead in hearing some of the odder routes (like Detroit's exclusive service to Windsor, Ontario).

From MIA, the following cities cannot be reached non-stop from any other US airport:

Belem, Brazil
Cali, Colomiba
Cartagena, Colombia
Iquitos, Peru (starts 24 June)
La Paz, Bolivia
Manaus, Brazil
Maracaibo, Venezuela
Salvador, Brazil (starts 02 July)
Santa Cruz, Bolivia
Porlamar, Venezuela
Valencia, Venezuela

I am sure Honolulu has some exotic ones as well.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:02 am

ATL has Stuttgart, Germany. Delta serves it nonstop daily with a 763. I don't think that Stuttgart is served by any other carrier nonstop from the US.

ATL also has Capetown (CPT), South Africa. It is the only US city with nonstop service to CPT. That is only going eastbound. A stop is required in Cape Verde going west. The routing is only nonstop to CPT a few days a week though. It goes ATL-CPT-JNB some days, and ATL-JNB-CPT the others. Coming to ATL, it is CPT-JNB-Cape Verde-ATL some days and JNB-CPT-Cape Verde-ATL on others. The flight is served by SAA's 744s.

 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:02 am

In Denver,

There is Mexicana's 1x weekly Zacatecas service. Not many cities in the US have non-stop service to Zacatecas.

I don't even know why Mexicana flies this route from DEN......

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:08 am

HNL has Midway Island service 1x weekly on Aloha Airlines. Unfortunately since Midway Island airport is being shut down, the flight will be discontinued soon.

Very unfortunate.....
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:09 am

JFK has IST and ATH, both served by Delta as well as Turkish (IST) and Olympic (ATH). Perhaps the biggest European one out of JFK would be VCE, where Delta is the only carrier serving the route in addition to New York being the only city with nonstop service there.

However, I'd say MIA and SJU have by far the most.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:10 am

Who flies Detroit-Windsor ? All I know of is Jazz's Dash-8 flights to Pearson and some Skyservice charters to the Caribbean.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:30 am

There are no DTW/YIP-YQG services.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:36 am

DeltaSFO, ORD also has non-stops to IST, Turkish 3x a week (and before 9.11 MIA did too  Sad)

Falcon Flyer, Northwest Airlink.

Airplanetire, your information is 100% correct, but, just to add, the stop is changing back to FLL this fall, so FLL will be the only city with non-stop from CPT, and ATL will be the only one with service too. And you are right about STG. DL did fly JFK-STG at one point, but it didn't work out.

BA, your right, not many cities have Zacatecas service. From what I found, only ORD also has ZCL service. LAX might, but I only checked for weekend service.

Here are some others I can think of:

San Juan to Herrera, Dominican Republic

JFK to Luxeumburg
JFK to Georgetown, Guayana (though MIA gets GEO this winter)
JFK to Nice, France
JFK to Cairo, Egypt
JFK to Casablanca, Morroco

Miami to Cordoba, Argentina (late summer 2002)

Ft. Lauderdale to Walker's Cay, Bahammas

Opa Locka (Miami) to Cape Haitian, Haiti

Watson Island (Miami) to Bimini, Bahammas

Anchorage to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia

Los Angeles to Guangzhou, China
Los Angeles to Melbourne, Australia
Los Angeles to Auckland, New Zealand
Los Angeles to Noumea, NC
Los Angeles to Nagoya, Japan
Los Angeles to Fukoka, Japan (??)

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:37 am

My fault, I was confusing my Canadian cities. Northwest Airlink flies Detroit-London, Ontario.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:44 am

MAH4546,

LAX does have Zacatecas service, but that and ORD were all I could find for ZCL service.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:50 am

EWR-Dubai on MH, it's being reinstated shortly if it hasn't already.
EWR-Glasglow (year round CO flight)
EWR-Oslo (SAS)
EWR-Birmingham UK (year round CO flight)

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:55 am

Thing is, who wants to go to all those places in South America??

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:55 am

From JFK:
Amman
Kuwait City
Prague
Kiev
Malaga
Georgetown
Athens
Jeddah
Casablanca
Venice
Nice
Cairo
Accra
Helsinki
Luxembourg
Bucharest
Timisoara
I think these are all of them...
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:58 am

MAH4546,
Who does the LAX - Noumea flight? Corsair?

If UA ever starts ORD-DEL, that would be another one to add to the list. With the current tension in the area, this is a longshot to happen soon.

Is Oslo still served only from EWR?
Another one I can think of is Accra-JFK on Ghana Airways (or is BWI the first stop, not sure). JFK probably has a lot more.
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:58 am

JFK-LUXEMBOURG, with Tarom Romanian

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:09 am

Aeromar operates San Antonio-San Luis Potosi, Mexico.



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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:13 am

ZCL also has service to SFO on Thurs and Sun. So that's a total of DEN, ORD, LAX, and SFO.

LAX also gets nonstop service to:
Nadi, Fiji. The only other US city with service is HNL.
Papette in Polynesia. Again only HNL also gets service.
Apia Samoa. Also only HNL.
Culican Mexico (CUL), no other US cities get a nonstop.
Aguascalientes Mexico (AGU), the only other US cities are DFW and IAH.

IAH and SAT get the only service to San Luis Pelosi, Mexico (SLP).

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:15 am

Sorry, I meant San Luis Potosi.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:40 am

STT757, Chicago has year-round service to Birmingham, UK on American (it did not operate for winter 2001/2002, however) and seasonal service to Glasgow on American. SAS suspened Newark-Oslo this past winter.

Flyguy1, JFK has no non-stop service to Kuwait City. Kuwait Airlines flies via London Heathrow. They also fly from ORD to KWI via LHR. Baltimore also has non-stop service to Accra, once a a week. However, I think Ghanna is gone now, so neither BWI or JFK have ACC service. There is also no service between JFK and Malaga. And someone correct me if I am wrong, but JFK-Bucharest is also not non-stop. Flights are all via Luxembourg or Timisoara.

Continental, clearly you have not been to all those "South American places". Cities like Iquitos, Manaus, and Belem, located along the Amazon River, are some of the most exotic in the world. And Cartagena, Colombia has some of the world's most beautiful beaches, while Porlamar, Venezuela is known around the world for its beaches, so much so that it has non-stop service to the European capitals of Madrid and Amsterdam.

DIA777, I believe it is Air New Zealand.

FATFlyer, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Mexicana open up new Chicago Midway-Culican service this year?

One not-so exlcusive route, but I'll mention it anyway, is service to the island city of Roatan, in Honduras. Grupo TACA flies there from Miami and Houston, both only once a week. They used to fly New Orleans-Roatan too, up until recently.





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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:45 am

Excuse me if I am incorrect, but I am almost certain that JFK has service to Malaga (Spain) on Air Plus Comet
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:53 am

Frequentflier, you are right, Air Plus Comet does fly JFK-AGP, but it is a charter service. There is nothing in the OAG showing scheduled JFK-AGP flights. None the less, Malaga wouldn't be exclusive because they also fly MIA-AGP charters.
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Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:03 am

Nevermind that, I was wrong. Service to MIA is charter, but JFK service is scheduled. JFK-AGP is not running right now, but will be back later this summer.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:34 am

MAH:
Check the OAG, Kuwait Airways flies nonstop from JFK-KWI on Sundays only. Also, Ghana was in JFK yesterday, though dont know how long that will last.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:36 am

Porlamar, Venezuela gets flights to Germany operated by Condor too.
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:38 am

I've been to Venezuela and Colombia. I don't want to offend anyone, but I was disgusted! There was poverty everywhere! Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to BASH! I just found that the country seemed to be in pretty bad shape!

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:45 am

All Hong Kong and Singapore flights?
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:46 am

Flyguy1, thanks, that is interesting, never knew that.

Continental, Venezuela and Colombia are not perfect, I've seen some pretty disgusting areas of Bogota, Medellin, Maracaibo, etc. myself, but they have thier beautiful areas too, just like any American city. Unfortunatley, you are right, however, Venezuela and Colombia are not in great economic shape.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:47 am

Ooops.Didnt realise US only
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 7:53 am

At MAN (as far as I know)

Continental (Newark)
Delta (Atlanta) (??)

 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 8:09 am

Flyguy1 you said that those cities are only served from JFK?

From JFK:
Prague
Jeddah
Accra

Prague - EWR daily CSA A310

Jeddah - IAD daily Saudi Arabian Airlines B747-400

Accra - BWI twice a week Ghana Airways DC-10. Inbound flight is via JFK and outbound flight is direct to Accra.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 8:12 am

Phoenix Int'l Airport (PHX):

Guaymas/San Carlos Intl. (GYM) served by Mesa Airlines (Acft: DH8) (1 daily, 1 X6)

Tucson Int'l Airport (TUS):

Ciudad Obregon Intl. (CEN) served by Aerolitoral (Acft: SWM) (X7)


That's it I guess concerning Arizona's airports...



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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 8:26 am

Lindy, CSA ended EWR-PRG service, which was 2x a week at its end, a few months ago. Saudi Arabian service between Washington Dulles and Jeddah is currently via JFK, though it does go non-stop on 15 June (summer only?). It operates only on Saturdays.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:06 am

IMO Continental has the most interesting route system of any US airline, mainly because of their Pacific/Micronesia/Asia division and their Mexican and Central American service. I think no US carrier serves more international destinations.

I think these routes fit the defintion of the thread, all flown by Continental:

(sorry I don't know the codes for these)

HNL - Majuro (Marshall Islands)
Guam - Truk
Guam - Cairns, Australia
Guam - Bali
Guam - Yap
Guam - Palau
Guam - Saipan (Saipan retains an unusual relationship to the USA, although not an American territory)
Guam - Fukuoka, Japan
Guam - Okayama, Japan
Guam - Niigati, Japan
Guam - Sendai, Japan
Guam - Sapporo, Japan

And from Houston:

IAH - Torreon, Mexico
IAH - Saltillo, Mexico
IAH - Tampico, Mexico
IAH - Veracruz, Mexico

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Miami-Cordoba?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:37 am

Who the hell is gonna fly this route????

Perhaps Southern Winds with their 767?

I'm afraid loadfactors are gonna be really low!

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:55 am

Jj, Southern Winds will fly the route with the 767-300ER. It has not been decided if the flight will be EZE-COR-MIA or COR-EZE-MIA, but they have the DOT route authorites for both. If history repeats itself, load factors will be excellent. Aerolineas Argentinas flew MIA-COR with 747s up until 1996 until Iberia Airlines canceled it. A city of 1,5M residents, MIA has flights to South and Central American cities much smaller than Cordoba, such as Iquitos (400k), Tegucigalpa (950k) Cartagena (700k), and Paramaibo (216k). Yes, the current economic situation in Argentina does not shine brightness on Southern Wind's upcoming MIA service, but the demand between Miami and Cordoba is there, although not as much now as in the future.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 2:35 pm

Here are some others for San Juan- SJU
-Tortola/ Virgin Gorda
-Canouan Islands
-Anguilla
-St. Kitts/ Nevis
-St. Vincent
-Martinique (nonstop)
-Guadalupe (nonstop)
-Casa de Campo/ La Romana
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 2:52 pm

Chepos, Philadelphia has service to St. Kitts and Nevis (USAirways weekly) and Miami has service to Casa de Campo/La Romana (American daily)
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:26 pm

The Philadelphia-St. Kitts route must be a very thin route.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Sun Jun 02, 2002 6:24 pm

Well the most exotic route of them all: MSP-YQT on Mesaba! Amazingly, today it looked pretty full, which is very rare for that flight.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:07 am

Cool, I never knew Northwest Airlink flew to Thunder Bay. Interesting. Plus, I believe Northwest's service between Minneapolis and Saskatoon and Northwest Airlink's Minneapolis-Regina service are both of those city's only links to the US.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:55 am

From JFK: Geneva Switzerland and i think from EWR Lisbon.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:56 am

Avion, yup. I can't forget we all forgot to mention Geneva! Although JFK also has Lisbon service on TAP.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:58 am

Vickybiccy: you forgot US to PHL from MAN on the A330.
 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:59 am

That is correct. JFK-GVA on Swiss (was operated by Swissair when they were still around  Sad) is the only North American route from GVA.

I flew on it a couple times. It was always packed full. Great flight.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 2:46 am

MAH4546,

If there was a Culican-Midway route it hasn't operated in several months. I checked the last couple of months of my Skyguides.

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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Mon Jun 03, 2002 4:11 am

FATFlyer, your right. For some reason Culican striked me as one of MX's MDW destinations. They are GDL, ZCL, and MLM. (which adds another city to the ZCL destinations).
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:50 pm

Tarom no longer flys via Luxemborg from New York. Currently they fly nonstop twice a week to Bucharest, and twice a week to Bucharest via Timisoara.

Ghana Airways does not fly nonstop from BWI to Accra. It is via Banjul.

Miami-Belem isn't non stop. It is via Manuas. However Belem-Miami is nonstop.

Currently there are no schedule flights right now between Miami and Porlamar.

Also Budapest is served only by Malev from JFK.


 
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Wed Jun 05, 2002 12:51 am

DKR, you are right. Aeropostal's Miami-Porlamar service is seasonal.
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RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations

Wed Jun 05, 2002 12:54 am

Flyguy1
IAD has nonstops to Jeddah also.