flyingbronco05
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TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:23 am

St. Louis-Based Flight Attendants Slip Into Something More Professional - An American Airlines Uniform

"ST. LOUIS, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- St. Louis-based flight attendants are packing away their TWA wings, jackets, and sweaters to make way for new American Airlines uniforms. The new uniforms began showing up at St. Louis -- Lambert International Airport over the weekend."

More at:http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020603/dam047_1.html

Don't you think it's kind of rude that the title means that TWA lacked PROFESSIONAL uniforms?
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:25 am

Is their a voyeur cam to watch them change?  Laugh out loud
 
aking8488
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:26 am

Maybe what they meant is that now, there will be more uniformity among AA employees, although I agree, the title by itself is a little unecessary.
 
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:31 am

Well, I'm sure they're glad to be getting out of those uniforms that dated back to 1978, when John Travolta and "Saturday Night Fever" was popular. The only missing on the old TWA L-1011s, was an 8-track player in each seat and a disco ball in the galley, but I guess that was left for the 747-100. Today's news is another step away from getting TWA coffee or TWA tea.
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:37 am

First of all the headline was to say the least tacky. But then you must realize that it was generated by American. And for the article to be correct in saying that the TWA F/A's are happy is just plain wrong. The men and women from TWA have been forced from flying international routes as they have for years to flying strictly domestic routes. And furthermore, their seniority has just gone down the toilet!! A TWA F/A that my husband sees often at ISP told him the other day that she has lost 34 years of seniority! Can you believe that? She has flown that long and now AA wants her to do training as if she was a new hire. An AA F/A with only a years' flying has more seniority than this woman. When National and Pan Am became one the only training we from National had to do was the location of emergency equipment on the Pan Am planes and to become accustomed to the different ovens that were in the galleys. The same was true for the Pan Am F/A's-they had to be "qualified" on the National planes with the emergency equipment we had carried and the warming ovens that we had. For American to insinuate that TWA has not had adequate emergency procedures all their years is quite rude to say the least(and to me when they are insisting on re-training all TWA flight attendants that is just what they are saying).
 
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:44 am

Greetings:

Skyhawk how could your husband see a TWA F/A at ISP??? TWA has never flown into ISP, other then express service many years ago. Just curious??

Tom
 
skyhawk
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:48 am

She was pass riding down to Atlanta to connect with a flight going west on that particular day other times it was going in to have passes issued.
 
Tom in NO
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:05 am

Unfortunately, what kills a lot of mergers and acquisitions is the integration of the various seniority lists, be it for pilots or F/A's, and it's the employees of the airline that's being acquired that's getting the short end of the stick. It's happened many times before, and it's happened to TWA's people.

Tom in NO (at MSY)

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skyhawk
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:20 am

You are absolutely right. TWA has got the short end of the stick, but that give AA no excuse to blatently lie about how "happy-happy" everybody is to be working at American. I'll bet you that is you poled the TWA staff they would rather have stayed TWA, even with all their faults. Not that I am sying they would be very smart to think that way, after all I wasn't very smart not to go with Delta like my husband did, I went down with the Pan Am ship.
 
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 9:02 am

It's unfortunate for TWA's employees, but at least they have their jobs in this terribly depressed economy (Dow down 215 today). So many other airline employees can't even claim that.

The title is tacky and inappropriate. TWA's uniforms are very professional and classy. Designed by Ralph Lauren (Polo). They were first class.

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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Tue Jun 04, 2002 9:16 am

looks like they chose the wrong airline,agents in COS got to keep all there seniority.all they did was change uniforms.

that was the hardest part for UAL employees with the whole usairways thing was seniority,i had 7 years and wasnt about to get bumped farther down by a usairways employee with 15 years.i chose ual to work for and they need to start at ground zero just like the rest of the new hires.this is an opinion you wont like but fair is fair.it isnt the employee from the airline buying the others fault because times change and his airline is stronger.i dont like american for many,many reasons and i would have loved to see TWA buy american but, the TWA employees got the raw end of the deal.but like i said before fair,is fair.


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KKMolokai
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Wed Jun 05, 2002 3:19 am

I'm sorry, but TWA employees are not all that bad off. Sure, they may have lost their occupational seniority, which affects bidding of shifts and vacations only. Whatever seniority they bring over from TWA, they still keep in terms of benefits and pay ... So in actuality, when they came over to AA they immediately saw a pay raise, better benefits and better retirement packages. Now if AA never bought them, could they claim such a bargain? Standing in the unemployment line with 35 years of seniority would do them no good! I'm really tired of hearing all of these TWA employees bitching, when it could be all so different for them ... Especially post 9/11. Good God!
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RE: TWA F/A Slip Into New Uniforms

Wed Jun 05, 2002 4:05 am

Hey..these folks got to keep their jobs! There is no doubt that TWA would have dissolved if American didn't buy them. It isn't like there were any real offers knocking at their door.

They should, at the very least, be grateful for the opportunity to continue working in their chosen field.

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