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Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 1:13 am

Some news for the spotters and other airport addicts: Syrian Arab Airlines (RB/SYR) starts its Brussels-Syria route (Damascus, Aleppo) this saturday june 15. I don't have more info about hours.


 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 1:53 am

The Syrianair A320-200s are scheduled to land in Brussels every Saturday at 10.00 and to depart Brussels at 11.00 from June 15.
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:45 am

You can find more details about the schedule at:

http://www.brusselsairport.be/timetables/


Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to ALEPPO (ALP)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 16:15 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 15:15 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from ALEPPO (ALP) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 03:00 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 04:00 10:00 320 1506-3009



Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to DAMASCUS (DAM)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 18:00 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 17:00 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from DAMASCUS (DAM) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 01:15 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 02:15 10:00 320 1506-3009


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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:57 am

Why Allepo and not Damascus?

 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 4:08 am

it's Allepo and Damascus, double touch flight
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 5:48 am

Thx for the information. I already saw Syrian Arab Airlines at Frankfurt last year.

Is there such a great potential for Syria - Belgium flights then? If I'm correct, even SN used to fly to Syria (or am I mistaking Syria with another Middle East country? I remember from last year when I was a luggage sorter at BRU that there were late evening flights to - I think - Syria with an A321)

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:01 am

Are you sure it wasn't Beirut, Lebanon?
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:16 am

I think that you mean Beirut Ivan.

BTW: an A321? This route was flown with their A320, and during the last months with an A319.

And the hours for the Syrian Arab are much better now, than their previous schedule which was during the night. So great for spotters  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:45 pm

Strange, all those changes in their schedules.

Firstly:

2 flights a week (every Thursday and Saturday) with this schedule:

Damascus - Aleppo - Wenen - Bru every thursday and saturday
18u00 00u45

Bru - Wenen - Aleppo - Damascus every friday and sunday
01u45 10u25

Secondly:

Only 1 flight a week:

Arriving in Brussels at at 07.15am and back to DAM at 08.15am.

Now:

Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to ALEPPO (ALP)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 16:15 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 15:15 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from ALEPPO (ALP) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 03:00 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 04:00 10:00 320 1506-3009



Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to DAMASCUS (DAM)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 18:00 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 17:00 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from DAMASCUS (DAM) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 01:15 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 02:15 10:00 320 1506-3009

Why all those changes?

Regards,
Frederic





 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:00 pm

Flights from DAM to BRU now run via AMS instead of VIE.
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Tue Jun 11, 2002 11:15 pm

The laodfactors to BEY wasn't bad at all at Sabena... The potential of the Middle East market is generally very good. Moreover I know that Austrian Airlines flights to Damascus are very full with a lot of connecting pax in VIE.

Good luck to RB, BRU needs new carriers !!!


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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Wed Jun 12, 2002 1:56 am

sorry guys. It was indeed Beirut instead of Damascus. I knew it was somewhere in the middle-east  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

About the aircraft, I'm sure they used a A321 at least a couple of times, but it doesn't matter now anymore, does it...

anyway, sorry 'bout that....Those memories tend to get packed somewhere in the very (dark) back of my brains, as the most efficient part nowadays is needed for my exams Big grin

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:10 am

Sabena usually flew a 737-300 to Beirut. It was the only 737 nightlfight
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:15 am

Aww, I see Damascus to Brussells with a stop in Allepo.

thanks.
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:31 am

Interesting how some European airlines fly to the near east overnight with fairly small aircraft (737s, MD80s) and make loads of money doing it. Alitalia (MD80s), LOT (737s), Malev (737s), Austrian (A320s) and Sabena (A320s) all leave their home bases at about 11pm and fly a narrowbody to Beirut, Damascus, Cairo, Tripoli, Amman et al, arriving at the destination about 3am local, spend 50 mins on the ground and fly back to their home base in time for sunrise. No way is there any market between Budapest and Beirut, maybe a couple of pax a week. But feed Malev's hub with a few pax each from London, Paris, Frankfurt, Madrid, Brussels et al and voila, four or five full flights a week on each red-eye route. Good use of what would otherwise be parked aircraft.
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:21 pm

Today, Syrian Airlines flew for the first time to Brussels.

Arrival:

15/06 10:00 Damascus RB 433 Landed: 10:28
via Aleppo
via Amsterdam

Departure:

15/06 11:00 Damascus RB 434 Departed: 12:02
via Aleppo

The aircraft doesn't fly to Amsterdam before flying to Aleppo and Damascus during the return flight??

I heard that the first flight of RB was sold out.

BTW, now that we are talking about the Middle East, I heard that the load factor for this summer is very high on the Royal Jordanian flights. RJ flies this summer two times a week to Brussels with an A310.

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:40 pm

SAbena690, yes the flight is Damascus - Aleppo - Amsterdam - Brussels - Aleppo - Damascus. During AMS-BRU the flighht has two flight numers RB433 and RB434.

Sabena 690, isn't one of the RJ also a flight AMM-BRU-AMS-BRU-AMM with an A320?
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 1:40 am

Hello Laurens,

It depends. Sometimes it is direct BRU-AMMAN, sometimes via Amsterdam, sometimes via Vienna...

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:36 am

SN 690,

The vienna stop of RJ isjust a technical stop. Due to range problems they must land there for fuel sometimes. SLR has the same problem with the charterflights to Hurghada or Sharm El Sheikh
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 5:51 am

The vienna stop of RJ isjust a technical stop. Due to range problems they must land there for fuel sometimes. SLR has the same problem with the charterflights to Hurghada or Sharm El Sheikh

Aha, that is the reason. I see that every week on the SLR flights to Hurghada etc.

Thanks for the info!

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 8:59 am

Flights from Hurghada; cool! I was on one of former Citybird. We also had to make a second landing, but we did that at Rome Ciampino. Lots of take-offs and landings on that flight  Wink/being sarcastic (Hurghada - Sharm-El-Sjeik - Rome Ciampino - Brussels).
On that flight, I realised that there are some stupid people living on this planet. The announcement of a fuel stop in Rome was made by intercom at Sharm-el-Sjeik airport. The lady next to me called a crew member and told her she didn't pay for a second landing, and that she would like to go imediately to BRU. Wonder what this woman would like the most; make a fuel stop and arrive in BRU only half an hour later, or getting out of fuel and make an emergency landing.
 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:13 pm

Hahaha Glider, great story  Big thumbs up

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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Sun Jun 16, 2002 7:03 pm



These fuelstops are one of the main reasons why SLR will change it Boeing Fleet into NG Boeing 737... The fuelstop is not only uncomfortable for the pax, sometimes pilots go out of duty time and need to be replaced at the fuel stop airport... A flight BRU-SHARM-VIE FUELSTOP -BRU is a long long working day for a crew. VEX had during their 'charter period' the advantage of having a crew base in Rome. So they could switch the crew in Rome in no time. SLR sometimes had to sent an extra crew tu Vienna with a Sabena flight... I don't know how they are operating this now.










 
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RE: Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday

Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:27 am

In my understanding the VIE stops of SLR flights from Hurghada & Sharm-El-Sheik inbound to BRU were also due to crew rest regulations...

I'm not too sure it's still the case as night stops were then introduced in Egypt for SLR crews.

Hope this helps;

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