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Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:08 am

I just came back from another trip to Japan and have to release some steam about the condition of the a/c after landing. Just about every trip I have been on (international) the a/c is a total disaster area not to mention the final condition of the lavatory!!! I was in AA Business Class and it was just as bad as Coach when I took a peek. The flight was only 50% full.

The worst I have seen was on NW, DTW to NRT and KIX with connecting flights to southern Asia.

I have not scene nearly such an disaster on JAL or ANA, even on 100% booked flights, as the FA's are constantly making sure the cabin and lavatory looks in good order.

Are people just careless or what...? I think it is becoming outrageous!

Anyone with me on this one?


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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:20 am

Well, on such long flights, it's to be expected that the cabin would become messy. Imagine cramming 400 people into a house- how would it look after a few hours.

It is nice when some airlines have the lavs cleaned enroute, but I'd rather not have the Flight Attendant who is handling my meals, clean the washrooms as well  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

If everyone just kept their trash in their airsickness bag, it sure would be a lot cleaner!
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:28 am

Cramming 400+ people...other airlines carry such load too but no comparison in level of disaster!
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:10 am

It has nothing to do with the airline, it has to do with the passengers on the plane.

On NW for instance, they are typically the least expensive to fly on. Consequently people of lower socio-economic backgrounds will be on those flights. On flights, there are regularly people that not only have never seen an airplane before, but have never seen a Western style toilet! It's not uncommon to see footprints on either side of the toilet on international flights.

As Squigee said, I'd much rather have the cleaning of the plane left to someone other than the cabin crew for sanitary reasons.
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Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:15 am

Are you saying that poor people are slobs???? Not all of them are slobs. Im sure that rich people like you are slobs also. I find that the rich are more messy than us poor people. The rich don't care, because "someone else is paid to clean it". The poor are cleaner because they have to put up with the flith of the rich that they leave behind.
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:26 am

Well it is nice to see that some FAs on certain airlines take the initiative to make sure the a/c is kept clean and tidy during flight.
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:30 am

The messiest passenger I have ever seen was a businessman dressed in a suit sitting in the huge exit row of a 56-seat AA F100. He had crumpled up papers all around him. Disgusting.

On all of the transatlantic flights I have been on I have only noticed a messy toilet on Virgin Atlantic (vs. UA, NW, US, BA). There were piss droplets all over the place. So I made some soapy hot water in the sink and gave the shitter a wipe-down (just once, no double dipping the nasty toilet towel back into the sink) and then dried it off good before putting my ass cheeks on it and taking a big shit.

Virgin Atlantic owes me a toilet cleaning. I'll expect Sir Richard to report to: Cornerstone Building
600 South Capitol Street
Iowa City, Iowa, USA

And he better hurry up, my lease is over July 31st.
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:39 am

Mls515, you the man. You're going on my Respected Users list for taking a big shit, and putting across so explicitly. God bless you.
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:24 am

It think it mainly depends on the airline.....Well Singapore Airlines are GREAT!

Their f/a's are constantly checking the toilets - refilling the soaps, toilet paper, And cleaning down the basins.... Every few hours they also give the toilet a clean.

They do this every 1/2 hour to 1 hour in Business class because the toilet is used less so they are able to get in and clean. They use gloves which they can whip off and then wash their hands and their hands are just as clean!

Qantas staff are the laziest around. The toilets at the end of a flight are usually in a messy state. Ive neve once seen the staff duck into a toilet and make sure its at least looking clean.

Well done SQ f/a's
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:26 am

I can't remember the exact wording, but I've seen signs in the lav that say something to the effect of "It might be nice if you left the lav clean as a courtesy to the next passenger." Something about wiping out the basin (which I usually do). I try to pick up trash if if it wasn't left there by me, simply because I don't want the next passenger to think that *I* was the pig who left the mess.


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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:43 am

I always tidy up the lavatory after I use it. It is a basic human decency thing for me. On the other hand, if I see the lavatory is already a mess when I open the door, I just go to the next one...  Smile

As for flight attendants cleaning up the lavatories during long flights, and then prepare our meals. I have no problem with that, AS LONG AS THEY WASH THEIR HANDS THOROUGHLY AFTERWARDS. Even if the FAs don't clean the lavatories, they still have to use it when nature calls, right?  Big grin

This is just like the public restrooms at 5-star hotels. If they don't have an attendant who cleans up all the time, it can get just as bad as the subway restrooms...

Generally speaking, ladies-only public restrooms are usually cleaner than men's.... Sorry, we guys are just not as tidy as women... Will this be true if airlplane lavatories are also separated by men/women?  Smile
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:56 am

The cabin on my BA 744 (JFK-LHR) was a disaster when we arrived. I sat all the way in the back, so when I was exiting, I saw everything. Food on the floor, magazines that were ripped up etc... But like it was said before, that's what happens when you put that many people together for 6 to 7 hours.
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RE: Post Flight Disaster!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:46 am

I was on a packed 744 from SFO-MNL a little while ago. The plane was a real mess. Food all over the place. I don't remember what the condition of the lavs were though. I once read a sign over a commode that read, "We aim to please, so please take aim."  Big thumbs up
Anyhow, have fun you all,  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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