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JAL/ANA 747 Classic Aircraft & JAL DC-10

Fri Jun 14, 2002 4:36 am

JAL and ANA really love their old 747s and JAL has kept their DC-10s for a long time. One example that comes to mind is the only existing 747-100 EUD operated by JAL. As an enthusiast, I think it is great that they keep these aircraft around. I have wondered though why they do it from a business perspective? JAL and ANA have long been protected by the government. Air fares were until relatively recently, government controlled. The airlines could have persuaded the government rather easily that they needed to keep their fleet updated and thus needed to keep fares high. I think Japanese carriers also have low capital costs so they could get the financing without a problem. Even most US carriers which tend to push aircraft towards the end of their service lives have dumped most of DC-10,L1011, and 747 classic aircraft in service. (Of course, I know NWA still flies 10s and 742s). Further, a lot carriers in the region have all nearly new fleets- KE, OZ, SQ, TG, MH and so on.

I suspect that airplane enthusiasts have some role in the decision to keep these planes in service for as long as they have. I know these planes are paid for. But it seems that maintenance and fuel savings from new aircraft would have offset that advantage. Does anyone know or have a guess that is better than mine?
 
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RE: JAL/ANA 747 Classic Aircraft & JAL DC-10

Fri Jun 14, 2002 10:00 am

Maintenance wise, one can only speculate that they are one of the safest and the best after 1985. From the 70s to the mid-80s, JAL had one of the worst safety records around. They have lost several DC8s and several incidents with the 747... all leading up to the finale in August 1985, the crash of JL123, a domestic configured 747-200. With that configuration meant 500+++ deaths making it the highest number of death in a single crash.

The cause of it was a maintaenance flaw in the rear pressure dome, causing it to fail. The escaping air rushed out through the back of the aircraft and up the ver stabs. The caused the ver stabs and the APU to break away from the aircraft and it severed hydraulic lines as well, rendering the flight controls useless.

They have not had a crash since.
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RE: JAL/ANA 747 Classic Aircraft & JAL DC-10

Fri Jun 14, 2002 11:42 am

I suspect that airplane enthusiasts have some role in the decision to keep these planes in service for as long as they have.

Do you really think this? I beg to differ.
 
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RE: JAL/ANA 747 Classic Aircraft & JAL DC-10

Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:58 pm

Let me clarify, I mean managers in the company who are not in a hurry to see the older jets go. Those are the airplane enthusiasts to who I am referring.

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