BDRules
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Cargo @ EMA

Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:12 am

Are there any new airlines looking at operating to EMA in the near future. There is DHL, UPS, TNT, Coyne, Cathay Pacific Cargo, Lufthansa Cargo, Bluebird, Royal Mail and Air Contractors. We also get Antonov Design Bureau, Heavy Lift, Gemini Cargo, World Cargo, Channel Express, Kalitta Air.

Any help or info would be of great help

Thanks
BDRules
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:15 am

Sorry, i don't actually have info on new Cargo airlines flying there, but i was there on April 29th slept overnight as our flight was 10am next morning and most of the night May 1st into May 2nd waiting for my coach home.
With staying overnight i saw all the Cargo, mostly DHL and TNT 763's and UPS 727's....very nice, made the place shake  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:17 am

TNT 763?????????? i didnt know they operated that. could it of been the A300
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 2:58 am

im taking it that there arent any then with no replys.  Sad thats pants
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:06 am

BDRules - what do you want man???

You've got shed loads of FRT going thru EMA as it is - what other airlines would you like to operate through there?

LM
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:10 am

well i would like to see SQ, MAS Kargo, Northwest Cargo just some new faces around thats all.

 
Lekky-Man
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:13 am

Your a man after my own heart BDR!!!!

I've been wanting to see new stuff in BHX and CVT for ages!!!

LM
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:59 am


Didn't MAN decide to do some internal wrangling and put the head cargo honcho of EMA into a similar position here? Oh, the benefits of being mother airport in charge of 3 others  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:25 am

It may have been a UPS 763. We have 763 flights coming in from Philly and on to Koeln (Cologne) EDDK.

Look for a 75 or possibly a A300 flight to a European airport near you courtesy of UPS  Smile

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BDRules
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:08 pm

i thought that MAN wanted to concentrate mainly on attracting Pax services so i think they should send the cargo flights to its children. (ok just EMA)
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 6:58 pm

On the contrary, right now the number of cargo airlines operating into EMA is reducing, not increasing... Coyne Airways has stopped already, and this weeks Cathay is the last for the time being as they're transferring the flight to Manchester.
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:18 pm

Aint CX Cargo also flying to MAN now? Maybe they will pull out of EMA?  Laugh out loud
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:21 pm

GKirk

Aint CX Cargo also flying to MAN now? Maybe they will pull out of EMA?

Read my lips, or more accurately my posting immediately above yours:

this weeks Cathay is the last for the time being as they're transferring the flight to Manchester Big grin

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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Thu Jun 20, 2002 7:09 am

What is it MAN buy EMA then try fobbing it off. Its the Steve Spooner. Man nick him and then everything follows him. i have met him befor and hes a real down to earth bloke. I hate MAN  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Thu Jun 20, 2002 7:15 am

Sorry John Spooner. thinking of something else while typing....
 
Billy
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Thu Jun 20, 2002 5:06 pm

But isn't the new MD of EMA a former senior Cathay Pacific honcho?
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:36 am

Oooops SkyMonster, I must have been drunk Embarrassment
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BDRules
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:13 am

didnt know that. i will try and find out about head honcho thing
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:06 pm

BDrules,
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TERRA
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Fri Jun 21, 2002 8:01 pm

Make the most of the Air Cowboys........oh i meant to say Air Contractors!!!

Perhaps DHL might pull out too, so i can spend more time in the pub!!!!!
 
BDRules
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:53 am

cant find anything about EMA's MD but perhaps TERRA would know
 
Skymonster
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:59 am

East Mids MD previously worked for CX. So there! Big grin
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Billy
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sat Jun 22, 2002 5:38 pm

Is CX taking the DHL traffic with them to MAN, as I understand that DHL is one of the reasons for Cathay's presence at EMA? It certainly accounted for CX leaving STN about 18 months ago.
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:41 pm

cant see it personally 1 flight taking DHL traffic with it to MAN. but then again all kind of strange things are happening at the mo
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sun Jun 23, 2002 12:39 am

How many cargo flights a day are at EMA in terms of movements?
 
gkirk
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sun Jun 23, 2002 1:05 am

Cargo = Loads
Passenger flights = Not that many
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BDRules
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sun Jun 23, 2002 5:13 am

god knows how many cargo movements. cant even guess. there are flights from Lufthansa Cargo, DHL, UPS, TNT, Bluebird and used to be Cathay Pacific Cargo & Coyne Air
 
Billy
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Sun Jun 23, 2002 5:41 am

The Coyne Air flights were being operated by Egyptair A300Fs. They were specifically operated for Egyptian perishables exporters. It is possible that the crops (grapes etc) are now exported and you may simply have to wait until the next season to see the flights return.
 
TERRA
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:36 pm

The CX flight to/from EMA doesn't carry any DHL frt as it is CX frt only. We put some DHL shipments on the a/c now and again but not a lot. DHL carries out the ground handling and CX use our facilities.
Now that Cathay are operating the HKG route to Man they simply want to put their own B744F on it and it stands to reason that they want to move our EMA aircraft up to Man. The Cathay cargo fleet is porbably not big enough to have seperate flights to LHR/MAN and EMA. It also depends on the loads in & out of Man, after a while CX may consider moving back to EMA if the loads are poor, but people will just have to wait and see.
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Mon Jun 24, 2002 9:53 pm

Looking at the CAA web-site, EMA moved 195,009 tonnes of cargo last year. By my reckoning this averages out at 534 tonnes per day. If you can get 100 tonnes on a Jumbo you could achieve this total figure with just three flights per day (3 in, 3 out) Obviously it doesn’t work like this in the real world. Smaller planes are often used for cargo and planes aren’t always full. So what does “loads” mean in response to the question : “How many cargo flights are there at EMA each day ?”

Another of the tables in the CAA stats. Gives a breakdown of air-transport movements by purpose. From this table you can work out the number of cargo flights at EMA :

EU
Scheduled 1003
Charter 7842

Other International
Scheduled 947
Charter 277

Domestic
Scheduled 35
Charter 4964

So, by my reckoning, in 2001 EMA had 15,068 cargo flights; an average of 41 per day. The average pay-load (if this means anything) was 12.94 tonnes.
 
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:05 pm

GKirk said: Cargo = Loads, Passenger flights = Not that many

GKirk, I think you'd be surprised about the number of passenger flights. I also suspect that with Go and BMIBaby starting ops in March, EMA could turn out to be very close to the top of the list in the UK in terms of passenger growth this year.
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:09 pm

Im not sure if any of you have checked out this site yet, but i just had a look at www.eastmidlandsairport.net. I you click on timetables and then cargo, it gives you a full flight schedule for the cargo traffic. Looks very busy!

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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:46 pm

Come on, Newcastle has more pax flights than EMA  Big thumbs up (Well, i guess if you have 1 million more pax then you must have more pax flights) and NCL doesnt have that many pax flights itself so I guessed that EMA is pretty quiet also  Big thumbs up
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RE: Cargo @ EMA

Tue Jun 25, 2002 7:12 am

No Erasmus, BAPILOT2B was also there and can confirm that they were 763's
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