jessman
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Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:30 am

At work today we were discussing smoking lounges at airports. Like how Atlanta has smoking aquariums, you might be able to see feet through the windows if you look low enough. Norfolk has them out by the gates. DFW, MSP and Salt Lake City have them I know for certain, but when I looked for information about ours here in Cincinnati I found these news articles.
http://www.kypost.com/news/1998/smoke022798.html
and
http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg11579.html
a brief synopsis; anti smoking activists say that smoking lounges at Cincinnati violated civil liberties because people with disabilities may be exposed to second hand smoke.
So my question is why did they go after CVG airport and Delta Air Lines specifically when so many airports make smoking lounges for their customers.
Also, what do you think about this.
I did a brief search to see if this had been discussed before, but I didn't come up with anything; I know this is kinda old, but it's new for me  Smile
 
drewwright
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:40 am

I believe DFW is a smoke free airport, ie; no smoking in the building at all. At least in the AA terminal.
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jessman
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:43 am

Sorry I was asking folks around me, Drewwright is correct, DFW is outside. IAD has a smoking loung inside the airport.
 
flashmeister
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:45 am

I think that DL goes out of its way to push the airport authorities into smoking lounges. They have them in ATL, CVG, SLC... not sure at DFW, and there used to be one at PDX.
 
Rai
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:00 pm

I think you can smoke in LGA's bars. I'm not sure how it goes at JFK or EWR. I know YYZ has a smoking lounge in the Canadian departures section T2. YEG also has a small smoking lounge. LHR has a small one in T3.
 
AC340
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:42 pm

Rai,

Where is the smoking lounge in T2 at YYZ? I don't think I have ever seen it before.
 
Rai
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:43 pm

AC340: There has to be because I've used it before! Maybe it's part of a bar or something.
 
AC340
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:50 pm

Thanks. I was just wondering, because I haven't seen it before. But now that I think of it, I think I know which bar you are thinking of.
 
jessman
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:41 am

So what if these folks win their lawsuit at CVG, would other airports then be targets?
 
Sabena332
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:54 am

Here in Germany is every airport smoking free but you can smoke at the bars while having a drink.

A big surprise was Milan (MXP) for me, the complete airport is a non-smoking zone.

At Paris (CDG) you can smoke wherever you want, I have done it several times and nobody cares.

At some terminal at LAX (maybe terminal 4? I departed from there with National Airlines) is the best smoking lounge, it is outside from where you have a perfect view on the ramp. Ridiculous is that there is no smoking lounge in the Tom Bradley International terminal, I want to smoke a cigarette before my departure to Paris (11 hours flight time) but there was no opportunity to do that, so I had to go outside.

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LMP737
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:19 am

STL has smoking lounges throughout the terminal. No smoking is allowed in any airport terminal in California. Or any public building, restaurant or bar for that matter.
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:28 am

I know LAX has one near UA's gates. It is outside the walkway to the next concourse. It has bars around the top,there is no roof to it. It was funny to see people who couldn't smoke for like 6 hours from Hawaii walking very quickly to it.
I was considerung trying to get some ramp pics,but there was always too many people in there.
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RE: Smoking Lounges...

Thu Jun 20, 2002 2:59 am

Honestly, no matter how hard the anti-smoking crusaders try, they'll never get what they want. There is an option for those that do not want to breath second-hand smoke, MOVE away from the smokers. It's getting to the point that the only place you can smoke is in you house, doors locked and under the covers (to paraphrase Denis Leary). The "aquarium" rooms you can smell before you even see them. I'm not a cigarette smoker (although I do smoke the weekly cigar, and my pipe gets a good workout as well [tobacco pipe, not hash pipe thank you very much.]) but am used to being around smokers, so it doesn't bother me. If it gets to bothering me, I move to a spot where it doesn't bother me as much. Two things are fuelling air rage, alcohol, and nicotine addictions. You wonder why so many of these smoking lounges are always full? Because some of these folks are getting ready to spend several hours without being able to smoke. Have you ever noticed how quick the smokers get off the plane so they can grab a quick puff before moving on to the terminal or their next flight? Suing the airlines and the airports for second hand smoke from the lounges is kind of like these cities that are suing gun makers for making guns that end up killing people. A great solution to the gun problem is not to limit guns, just make the bullets more expensive, I mean make a box of bullets cost $250, and that'll cut down on gun violence. So all of you whiny anti-smoking crusaders can just put your lips on a tailpipe and suck exhaust! If someone wants to smoke, let them. They know it's dangerous, even if they don't read the SG's warning. Suits against the tobacco companies for health problems related to smoking should be thrown out, just as most lawsuits against beer and liquor companies have. People know the risks going in, so whatever happened to them is their own damn fault. All it really is is that people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions and the consequences of those actions.

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