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Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:12 pm

According to Air New Zealand's Website, Air New Zealand will introduce a new Express class service on the main trunk domestic routes operated by its Boeing B737-300 fleet. The start-up date for Air New Zealand Express is 27 October this year.

These aircraft will be fitted with 136 seats (14 additional seats will be installed), following the removal of the Business Class Cabin.

So, how many B 737-300s will join the Air New Zealand Express Fleet? All of them I guess?

Will ALL of Air New Zealand's Domestic Operations go EXPRESS? Or only some of them?

A new snack service will be introduced, including Water, Tea and Coffee etc. Do they provide in-flight meal, as well as alcoholic beverage currently? And will they continue to do so for some of their routes?

Good to hear that Freedom Air is expanding and they will be adding on additional B 737-300 into their fleet.

Awaiting your reply.


 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:26 pm

In my opinion, they shouldn't convert ALL of their B 737s to EXPRESS. Otherwise, they might lose a number of Domestic Business Travellors to Qantas. They should keep some of their B 737s in their original configuration. And offer food onboard some of their domestic services.

Freedom Air, as well as Air New Zealand Express are somewhat similar to Tango; according to Jim1126. I think they should keep BOTH the original B 737s, as well as Air New Zealand Express. These are two different market segments.

Anyway, good to hear that Air New Zealand Express will be offering snacks on board.

 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:28 pm

* All the DOMESTIC 733s will be converted to Express

* NZ's domestic business class service is little used, with a large percentage of pax being upgrades.

* Water, tea, and coffee will apparently be the only service onboard. NZ currently provide a full hot meal on all flights 45 minutes and over, with alcohol service.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:30 pm

One more thing, an Air New Zealand staff has confirmed that ZK-SUH is READY to return to service. And it will be back in August.

I think they will use ZK-SUH to increase their frequencies for their LAX-SYD route (LAX-SYD will be increased from 3 flights weekly to 5)

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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:35 pm

TG992,

Oh no...... That will be a service cutback.

Will they convert the ENTIRE Domestic Operation to EXPRESS? What about their service to Australia, as well as Tasman Island?? (Do they still fly to Tasman Island? Or is it Freedom Air which flies to Tasman Island? Or both?)

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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:53 pm

Tasman Island???

Do you mean Norfolk Island or some of the Sth Pacific Islands they fly the 73R's too??
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:12 pm

What I mean is Norfolk Island as well as South Pacific Islands.

Sorry folks.

Air New Zealand does not fly to Tasmania (Correct me if I am wrong)
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:33 pm

* Yes, all domestic routes will have the new 'express' service.

* Australia will remain full service for now.

* -SUH is not ready to return to service.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:38 pm

Then what about its service to Norfolk Island as well as South Pacific Islands?

ZK-SUH was repainted. It is 'quite' ready. However, it will return to service in August.

I doubt Australia will go 'Express'. Otherwise they will give Business Travellors to Qantas.

 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:52 pm

Some services to the South Pacific will probably go Express.

I am going to the airport tomorrow so I will have a look at ZK-SUH if I can Des!  Smile Last week it was missing the Koru on one side of the tail!
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:55 pm

Oh no........

Domestic service will definitely go ALL 'Express'. Sad though......

I guess SOME OF the South Pacific Island Routes will remain unchanged.

What are your thoughts?
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:05 pm

ZK-SUH will be ready by August I guess.

Hey I plan to visit Auckland in 2003. I will let you know more about the details.

Take care Scott!
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:17 pm

*patience level decreasing*

The new 'express' service is part of the new 'shorthaul' strategy.

NZ define 'shorthaul' as all routes under 5h.

This includes the islands and Australia (except Perth). Norfolk Island is part of Australia.

* Australia and South Pacific service will remained unchanged *for now*. The success of the 'express' service domestically will be the key factor in whether service on these routes changes eventually.

* ZK-SUH will probably be returned to service with the introduction of the new schedule (October, I believe, although don't quote me on that)

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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:27 pm

In my opinion, I doubt Australia and South Pacific Service will change eventually. Air NZ does not want to lose its Business Travellors to Qantas.

So what will these 'snacks' be? Other than drinks.....

Thanks TG992.  Smile

 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:11 pm

United_Airline - not all of the routes to Australia rely on business travelers (please note spelling of that word). Cairns comes to mind, Brisbane as well. Melbourne and Sydney definitely have their fair share of J pax though. NZ could well have a mix of full service and NZ express flights to Australia and the Pacific depending on the demand. But as TG992 has said many a time, nothing is certain yet, NZ is waiting for feedback about the Express service on domestic routes. I (along with other Air Points members I assume) received a card (though others received an e-mail apparently) the other week detailing the changes, and assuring that there would be no change to international flights for some time, and that if there was, it would be after consultation with frequent fliers. So, I think all we can do is speculate now, and as pretty much everything has been speculated on the topic, we are just going to have to wait and see...

As an afterthought, I wonder if NZ will apply Express titles to their domestic 737s? Perhaps in the position where link is written on the Link aircraft. We'll see soon enough...

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RE: Air New Zealand Express

Sat Jun 22, 2002 1:52 am

I think we will wait for another while to see what's the new International strategy later this year.

ANZ is due to announce the international plan by the end of this year. This could cover Trans-Tasman route, Norfolk Island, and near by Pacific Island.