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What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 12:59 am

I happened to run across the following image. It is said to be a Pacific Western 737-300, C-FPWD, on approach to Toronto in February, 1987.

I've never heard of PWA operating any 737 model other than the 737-200, and the paint scheme is decidedly different. Given that it carried a Canadian registration, this aircraft must have served in PWA's network for a while.

Anybody know the story behind it?



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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 1:15 am

the livery it wears says it's from MONARCH AIRLINES out of the UK !!!!
that's all i know
 
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 1:19 am

This 737-300 was leased from Monarch Airlines, an English charter airline, which had these cheatlines as seen on the picture. It was cn 23495 G-DHSW. Also in the following 2 winters, it was leased to Canadian Airlines International. It has been common practice, also between Air 2000 and Canada 3000, that British charter airplanes in the European slow winter season are leased out to Canadian airlines. This exact aircraft later was sold to Southwest Airlines and is now N664WN.
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 1:19 am

According to my logs its a 737-2T7 (former G-DWHH), anybody know if this aircraft recieved new engines or something?
 
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 1:21 am

And also look at this picture: http://www.rob.clubkawasaki.com/jas2331.jpg


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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:37 am

PWA ordered a good number of 737-300 aircraft in the mid 1980s; after the merger with Canadian Pacific that formed Canadi
Sounds a bit odd, but remember this was back in the 1980s, before Stage III rules, etc, etc, and the 73S was a perfectably acceptable choice at the time and allowed the airline to raise some cash.......as for Canadi
 
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:39 am

Sorry, something strange happened to my post above.

I was concluding by saying that most of us know the difficult history of Canadian Airlines, its a shame, as Canadian Pacific was a leading name worldwide in transportation and Pacific Western was a pioneer in operating in the difficult and remote areas of the Canadian Northwest.
 
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:47 am

EGGD > As you could also find on www.airlinerlist.com, the regi C-FPWD is used for both a 737-200 and another frame, a 737-300. No re engineing upgrades of 737-200 to -300 have ever taken place (imagine what a rebuilt that must have been, adding fuselage plugs (as the -300 is longer), new undercarriage, change it's wings and tail).
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:01 am

Dutchjet wrote: "Pacific Western was a pioneer in operating in the difficult and remote areas of the Canadian Northwest."

Until the advent of Canadian Airlines, Pacific Western had also been Canada's healthiest airline from a fiscal point of view. If it had grown sustainably, it would have become an increasingly national competitor to Air Canada in the '90s -- and a more fearsome one than the debt-laden Canadian Airlines.

 
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 5:39 am

Just months prior to the PWA merger with CP, PWA ordered 2 new 733 (not a 'good number'). This order was cancelled with the CP merger (CP already had 733's on order).

In 86/87, PWA did lease (for the winter) 733's from Monarch for charter services only. This lease arrangement continued with the CP merger with the above aircraft in 'Canadian' titles the following winter.

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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 7:39 am

I believe it had something to do with Pegasus, a business class carrier intended to run transcontinental flights (CP Air). But when the carriers merged they found no need for the 737-300.
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 10:05 am

Pegasus was different. CP (just prior to the PWA merger) brought out an updated business class product using 2 of 3 newly delivered 733's with a special colour scheme. The product & aircraft were called 'Attache'. The Attache scheme was very similar to the soon-to-be brought out Canadian Pacific Air Lines scheme replacing the orange CP Air theme. Attache was short-lived. The 2 733's were sold soon after (along with the sole orange CP 733) and CP standardized on the 732 (before and after the PWA merger).

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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 10:18 am

MSN 23495/LN 1260 737-3Y0 leased from Monarch from 11/11/86 to 4/27/87 and the next two winters by Canadi>n. Now with WN as N664WN.

No EGGD, no 737-200 has been, or will be, fitted with CFMs.
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RE: What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 10:38 am

Back in the mid-80's, ther was brief talk of offering a re-engined 732 with CFM's. It was coined the 737-250. But of course it never happened and the 735 was offered soon after.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.