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Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:02 am

Well, my week in the sun is booked to Lesbos ( enough sniggering MX5BOY and CO ) , and I'm flying with Airtours from LGW on the 8th of August. Being a snob, I've never flown with a charter airline - so what should I be expecting ?

As my tickets are in the post, I don't actually know what type of a plane this is either. Ideas ?

What's the service like ? I'm afraid I seem to hear far too many negative things about this company; but since I am a poor student/harassed worker, I do not have the luxury of flying Olympic Airways who are charging twice as much.

 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:26 am

Airtours International Airways are now called "My Travel Airways".

Thu 8th August 2002

Flight MYT1415
London Gatwick - Mitilini
06:00 Departure
Airbus A320-200

If you've never flown charter before then expect a cramped seat (180 seats on the A320 compared to 150 on a scheduled airline), reasonable delay (1 hour typical), and to pay for all your drinks on board.

Enjoy!
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:30 am

Expect 31 inch seat pitch

Expect to see the phrase "cattle class service" taken to new levels

Expect cockroach infested cabins  Big grin (joke)

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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:47 am

At the end of the day you get what you pay for ! If they get you there and back and you have a good holiday then who cares ? You might only get 31 inches of leg room but your not going to Sydney are you ! Pay for a few drinks and have a good holiday ! Ive flown withy them a few times and never had a complaint about them for a charter !!!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:52 am

31 inches???
No no no no no no...not on their A320s. I think its 28 (!) but hey, its tolerable, and you will get a film and pleasant upholstery. I think. Airtours, sorry MyTravesty, have gone a bit mad recently and I don't know if they still give every passenger a seat nowadays. You may have to pay for a meal, definately for drinks. It should be okay though - have fond memories of nice, if slightly cramped, flights with AIH.

P.S. I noticed today in Going Places, the travel agency chain that mostly sells MyTravel packages, said beside most of the prices onthe late deals cards "Meal on plane extra". Crazy world this is.
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:55 am

Yep I'm pretty sure to get 180 into an A320, 28" pitch is required.
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:56 am

Right, no worse than EasyJet at a push then. I suppose I can tolerate this by consuming large quantities of alcohol and deluding myself I actually have more than three cubic inches of seat space.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to erase images of Essex families wearing shellsuits, and with screaming children in tow from my mind.
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 9:00 am

Barcode,

With a Militini flight you should be spared of the cheaper "bucket and spade" mob. It is August though so no doubt there will be a few pesky kids... Not as many as a Palma flight though!
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 9:00 am

Meanwhile, I'm trying to erase images of Essex families wearing shellsuits, and with screaming children in tow from my mind

LOL! That's what i was thinking, that's why i don't want to use charters, to avoid the typical British family with a spade and bucket Big grin

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RE: Airtours Questions

Sat Jun 22, 2002 9:09 am

Urrrghhhhhkkk, Rick, every summer when I was a kid - we'd board a 727 charter bound for Palma airport. It is a thoroughly traumatizing experience.

And shellsuits make a lot of noise - even by my standards, and I'm partially deaf.

Olympic Airways were charging around £500 , so whilst I would like to fly in comfort - my bank balance does not permit such luxuries.

Hopefully, on a charter, everyone will be in the holiday mood ( only way to survive the experience ), and I can start my cruising for hot chicks from Gatwick airport :-]
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 3:28 am

Barcode,

Being from Essex myself - I feel duty bound to inform you of the current status of this area!

Adverse to popular belief - Essex is one of the most affluent areas in the country. The area in particular which I reside within is called Rayleigh. Rayleigh is a nice town, which is fairly quiet and very expensive. Actually - in Essex, a lot of places have done a 180 since they days of shellsuits and are some of the most expensive and desired places to live in the country. (Which is why the centre of London is moving nearer and nearer Southend every second!)

Yes, being fair there are some right rough dives - just to highlight that Essexarians no longer wear shell suits - we sent those to Liverpool (tsk!!) Now every rude boy in the area is insistant on wearing anything with 'Moschino' plastered on it in 5inch lettering, which they probably bought frem 'Dagenham Dave' for £5 on Pitsea market. You will find them draped in what looks like gold, although it is actually hollow and gold 'coated' - bought from cash converters in Basildon. You will see them 'cruising' in their XR3 which is lowered so far that you can her it scraping on the ground and the windows blacked out for fear of people seeing their faces (complete with gold tooth).

You should be clear of these people going to Lesvos - they are all booked on an Aspro holiday to Marbella or Magaluf with their girlfiend Mandy (Pron. Maaaaaaaaandy) and their little kiddies, which they had when they were 14.

We're not like that in Rayleigh though, are we Go Canada! ? Most parts of Essex are desireable and respectable. It's just certain areas like Basildon, Grays, Dagenham, Barking and Southend-on-Sea which are 'as rough as your nan'!!!

There is only one thing worse than an Essexarian on a charter flight - and that is one on a scheduled flight - 'Gone up in the world now 'aven't we Maaaaaaaaandy?' - think they OWN the place!!!!

(Plus - I CAN say all this because I AM from ESSEX!!!!)

Sam.
Rayleigh
(Nicer part of Essex)

[P.s. - We don't live in gold plated bus shelters either!)
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 3:54 am

Just be glad you aren't on a ferry, I've seen horrific sights on one of them, and don't worry, you get common people on every sort of flight, they are called lottery winners, its disgusting!! Big grin
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 3:58 am

LOL

Believe me- take all that you just said about Essex, multiply it by ten and you'll find yourself in my area- Ali G Land, aka Staines!
Essex sounds nice in comparison.....!

The Mytravel Group does tend to cater for the lower end of the market, so they'll probably be a few rudeboyz and Kappa slappers on your flight, but they're normally not a problem at all- some of them can be quite nice! .....honest!

Bon voyage!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 4:03 am

Sam,
Essex is indeed one of the wealthiest,if not the,part of the UK.However,it is rather noveau-riche so to speak!But where would be without Essex girls jokes?'

Moschino' plastered on it in 5inch lettering, which they probably bought frem 'Dagenham Dave' for £5 on Pitsea market
LMAO!This sounds SO much like Bromley!Chris RudeBoy fully accompanied with bad-man bop on the way to his bitches at the Glades
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 4:08 am

LOL I bet Barcode is dreading her flight now!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 7:08 am

The seat pitch is the same on all Airtours ("MyTravel") flights, regardless of what aircraft type it is, and no there aint much room, but at least the A320 seats are wider than most which makes it more bareable. I flew on a Eurocypria A320 to Paphos just a few weeks ago, and it was quite comfortable, despite the low seat pitch. The flight to Lesbos is a good hour shorter than to Paphos so there should be no problem.

Oh, and by the way, if you've paid the Flight Only fare or the "Sundeal" packages, they won't give you a meal on-board. All part of this new "revolutionary" way of selling holidays, which will never last.


Regards,
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:10 pm

Erherm, me 'geezers' and 'birds' - add me to your 'respec' users list innit.

Respec'

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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:15 pm

Essex is NOT noveau-riche , if you want noveau-riche got to hertfordshire(home of Victoria beckham) or Sandbanks in Bournemouth.

Bournemouth is the capitial of the noveau-riche , too many 18 year olds driving golf convertables because of daddy and are sent to any old private school in the hope of a decent education. If you want a noveau-riche holiday experience then book with Virgin.

with virgin holidays you get the same pikes as you would with 'mytravel' but insteead of being dirt poor, they actually have cash and dont they let others know it. They clikc their fingers at the cabin crew, shouted out for some 'bubbly' yet wont pay champange prices so they drink 'cava' or 'chadooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrryyyyy
and instead of reading a respectable newspaper they read the daily mirror and watch itv on a saturday night!

the 'rude boys' in essex all drive 306s or a silver citeron, buy five seasons old calvin klein wear in tx maxx and think just because they have one tope from french connection then suddenly they are fashionable!

Airtours holidays pax can be easily spotted by four simple tests:

1) They have a copy of the daily Mirror or the Mail
2) The woemn wear a top with karen millen plastered all over it and have eitther fake burberry orfake louis vitton bags(or maybe the real thing but its still too common, they shop shop in celine instead!)
3) the teenagers have an inability to string a sentence together that doesnt contain at least three glottal stops ( eg walha rather than water) nor contain the pharse 'wicked'.
4) the middle aged pax huddle together in groups and at least one of them has a bumbag and one has a pair of shades stuck on their head

If you are really lucky you might spot the 'middle class' airtours holiday maker, typically your thrity five year old frump with her husband stuart and her children 'milly' and 'barnaby', clutching the lastest Zadie smith novel or the daily mail. her husband has the lastest steven king or jon grisham novel and oen of her children has harry potter with the other reading 'horrible histories'.

avoid them at all costs and have a nice time on your pikey flgiht, im a student but id rather resort to ryanair' bargin bucket prices and bargin bucket service' then actually pay for airtours. Whether the airline and the company is repackaged as 'mytravel' or not, its still the same pikey hell hole with the same rude staff, same excuses and same lame airline.

It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:17 pm

sam maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeee

you have to earn respect, your too young sam for respect, i mean what do you know about anything????????

It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:18 pm

ps-levos has over eight million olive trees and is a beautiful island destined for war with turkey(according to the last travel guide i had whilst i was there!)

The airport is very very small and is little more than a shed and a airstrip.
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:19 pm

And GoCanada! has shown a partiallity to Ryanair flights recently....

Te he!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:22 pm

Who has a collection of airtours planes and has flown with them more times?

Who flew with transaer????????

I think someone needs moving to hullbridge!
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:29 pm

Yes!!! Hands up - I have flown with Airtours - one of the most colourful and interesting TransAtlantic flights I've taken. Blame that on my parents. Now I am an independant traveller - I choose quality. I.E, I am flying with Aer Lingus/British Airways to Dublin - rather than Ryanair!

Yes - TransAer was a terrible mistake - but again - not my fault - I booked a very respectable and expensive cruise with P&O Cruises - they just thought it funny to deposit me on and aircraft with a load of ceiling panels missing! They went bust shortly after - unsuprisingly.

And, as I HAVE flown with Airtours - I am able to comment on their 'service'.

 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:47 pm

From

"Rayleigh is an ancient market town in the County of Essex, England. Its oldest church dates back to 1400-1500AD. It has a well preserved windmill, built around 1798, the mound of a Norman Castle, now owned by the National Trust and a circular 17th century 'Dutch' cottage, to name but a few of Rayleigh's attractions.
Today, Rayleigh has developed into a modern shopping area retaining an old world charm. It lies some 38 miles from London in an easterly direction along the corridor of the Thames Estuary and is 7 miles from the seaside town of Southend. Rayleigh is honoured to be twinned with Haltern in Germany."

Some Pictures of Rayleigh:


The Windmill in the centre of Rayleigh


The Dutch Cottage built in 1621


Rayleigh High Street By Night at Christmas

And NOT ONE gold plated bus shelter in sight. No RudeBoyz, no Shell Suits or XR3's!!

Sam.
Rayleigh (And Proud)
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 10:49 pm

I flew in an Airtours A320 last year on my way back from TFS 9outbound was 757 due to A320 going tech). it was a nice tidy clean aircraft, friendly crew etc. overall quite good.

What you can expect this year is one of the most weird paint schemes you've ever seen. it will be a mash of AIH and MyTravel. i don't know why but MYT don't seem to want to paint aircraft one at a time. it seems that whenever a plane is on the ground they'll add another sticker, or pull one off, or get out the paint!!!!! heres an example of the number of schemes:


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RE: Airtours Questions

Sun Jun 23, 2002 11:06 pm

Airtours are too stupid to design a standard livery, anything more than painting by numbers makes their brains explode(note this is directed at the management not at cabin crew who have to cope with the pikes)
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:07 am

Go Canada - you have me in a wrinkle.
Very very true, everything you said.
Having said that, I LIKE FLYING AIRTOURS!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:29 am

LOL @ GoCanada! I agree BFS, i likes flying AIH last year!!! Even after an outbound delay of 5 hours they won me over!!! their aircraft were basically imaculate, and the crew were very friendly, and even the food was edible!!! If you want rude crew go to JMC, and if you want filthy aircraft also go to JMC.

Barcode, if you still have the guts to read this post then believe me, AIh are alright. i was dreading my flight last year after everyones comments, but i thought quite highly of them!!
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 1:59 am

*chortle* , I do have some slight apprehension, but I'll be sure to post a trip report detailing my first experience flying as a common person :-]

Yes, I'm sure parts of Essex may be quite respectable; I just don't want to move there. But seriously, I may be forced to buy a house in Southend on bloody Sea and commute to London if things become more expensive here.

Now, if I get lucky, I may not return from holiday having found a nice Greek girl which would be a good excuse to chuck in a job here in rainy Britain ;-]

Any advice on Greece in general ? Everything seems rather cheap, which is a good thing - I'm still trying to get to grips with the Euro ...
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 5:24 pm

Move to Rochford honey...

DON'T move to southend - and if you do move to Essex and you are commuting - move to a town with a Great Eastern Railway Station, rather than a c2c station!

Little advice for you there....

Sam.
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:32 pm

I flew Airtours last year from Newcastle to Mahon on an A320. We were delayed at NCL for 3 hours but that was cos of a coach strike in the Balearics.
The flight was great however  Big thumbs up
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RE: Airtours Questions

Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:49 pm

Airtours contract AirMalta to and from Malta a lot. AirMalta still offers a hot meal to all passengers, even though some are actually honest and tell us that they have not paid for one. You pay for drinks of course - on chartered flights only. We carry Airtours pax on our sked flights and these benefit from free drinks. Here is another profile of the Airtours pap: He asks for Juice or water, hands you money and changes the order for a GT and white wine when he discovers drinks are FOC !!
I honestly don't know how sustainable this is. My guess is AirMalta will also see meal less flights come next year's Summer Airtours contract.
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:54 am


My first 'charter' flight, after spending many years traveling business class, was on Airtours in a 320.

The journey, out and back, to Bodrum (4 hours) was quite pleasant. I didn't suffer any popping ears or seat discomfort. I found the crews to be attentive and the grub was above average.

Monarch on the other hand was very different. A300-600, felt very claustrophobic and the food was dire, ears popped badly on climb and descent and the crews were well below par.

All in all, it's a lottery with charter airlines.
 
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RE: Airtours Questions

Tue Jun 25, 2002 1:15 am

move to rochford..its at least 15k cheaper than rayleigh.

ps-women on levos are well, not that great.
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