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2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:21 pm

I flew on QANTAS QF25 from BNE-AKL, then AKL-LAX on June 20th. When I arrived in Auckland, I noticed that the gates we landed at was surrounded by temporary movable walls except for a little opening which could be shut (I think it's the same idea as flights to Washington National Airport need). All flights leaving AKL non-stop from the United States needed to be screened again and then board in these secure gate lounges. This was true of not only the QANTAS flight but the United and Air NZ flights leaving that day as well. So, after already going through a security checkpoint and immigration (either in BNE or AKL) you then had to go through another security checkpoint (metal detector bags searches and such) and then get your passport and boarding pass check again. This was before you got to the boarding process and they checked your boarding pass and passport again.

Anyone experienced this before or know why they need to do this?

I flew from CDG to DFW only three months ago and they didn't have anything like this (except very nosy security questions before checking in). Also, the flights that made a stop before getting to the US didn't have the extra security, and I doubt they re-screeened everyone in the little Tahiti airport.

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:23 pm

DUS - IAD on United was done the same way. You went through the initial security checkpoint, and then through another checkpoint, exclusively for United.
 
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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:46 pm

Any flight Ive been on to America from Australia or Europe... does this,...

At Frankfurt and Zurich, it was just checking your passport and boarding pass again to verify you were able to be let into the states.

here they had extra security like you mentioned... i think post Sept. 11.

Also at Sydney airport they now have armed guards walking around the departure lounges!
 
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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st

Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:46 pm

I've had the same experience at SYD for an LAX-bound AirNZ flight. I think that it makes good sense... the hand-search at the gate is undoubtedly more thorough than the initial walk-through. But it definitely necessitates a timely arrival at the gate area.
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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st

Sat Jun 22, 2002 4:22 pm

At Singapore, you have to go through a security check point to get into the gate lounge (I am sure you have to go through one to get into the terminal first, as well)

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 6:04 pm

Dual security screening is to ensure that you are clean when you enter the boarding gate. If you're clean going airside, you could always obtain a "weapon" somewhere between entering airside and the boarding gate.

Good idea...

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 6:06 pm

Anyone experienced this before

No, not even going to the US nor indeed departig from Singapore as suggested above

or know why they need to do this?

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 6:24 pm

This is because at Auckland, arriving and departing passengers use the same airside concourse (i.e. on the same level).

Hong Kong and US civil aviation authorities require departure and arrival flow of passengers to be separated at all times. Thus all US and HKG bound flights must depart from gate 8 or gate 10 at the end of the terminal.

At no other airport I know of require such rescreening. SIN and KUL, which also have same-level arrivals and departures, have their sole security checkpoint at the gate - there is no checkpoint after immigration. Airports like SYD and HKG have split level departures/arrivals so that is not a problem.
 
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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sat Jun 22, 2002 11:49 pm

At SYD: I experienced FOUR security checks at Sydney, for a flight to LAX. First, at check-in ALL passengers were taken out of line for a bag search. Second, the standard security checkpoint with metal detector. Third, the gate was walled off with the temporary wall dividers and a check was made of ALL carry-ons as you entered the gate lounge. Fourth, a pat down in the jetway just before entering the aircraft.

At BRU: I experienced THREE security checks at Brussels, for a flight to IAD. First, I was randomly selected to be taken out of the check-in line for a full, thorough bag search. Second, the standard security checkpoint with metal detector (further taken behind a curtain for a pat down). Third, a checkpoint midway to the gates, as the American carriers were isolated at the farthest end of the concourse to provide this extra security.

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sun Jun 23, 2002 1:05 am

This system has been at place at BRU for a while, first the "normal" security check-point, and then pax going to the USA go through a second more detailed search, where your documents are again checked and you may be subjected to a baggage check, body frisk, shoe removal and examination, or other procedures. US departures now use the gates at the absolute end of the concourse, which is closed off for other flights.

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RE: 2nd Security Checkpoint After Clearing The 1st?

Sun Jun 23, 2002 4:01 am

I was actually off in my earlier post on the number of security checks at BRU. There were FOUR, not three. The fourth check was a random screening just before boarding the aircraft. However, I was not selected for this fourth check.

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