David_itl
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Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Tue Jun 25, 2002 11:35 pm

BA and Swiss ERJ145s were on a "collision course" according to this report last Tuesday morning, just south of MAN. It states:

"The near-miss happened at 11,000 feet as the two aircraft were travelling at speeds approaching 300 mph over north east Cheshire. It is understood the trainee failed to spot the imminent disaster and the planes got so close their images started to merge on the radar screen. A supervisor realised there was a major problem and tried to take action but the pilot of one of the planes had already spotted the other aircraft and manoeuvred to avoid a crash."

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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Tue Jun 25, 2002 11:41 pm


If both aircarfts were approaching MAN,a speed of 300kts is relatively abnormal !!!

This has to developed !!!
 
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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Tue Jun 25, 2002 11:42 pm

These near misses happen all the time nowadays, you frequently read and hear stuff like this in newspapers and TV. Don't know if we should take these seriously or is it just hype in the media?

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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Tue Jun 25, 2002 11:44 pm

From the same media company which published this in the very same article:

"PASSENGERS on a flight from Manchester to Cyprus thought they were going to die when their jet was hit by lightning. They were already gripping their seats due to severe turbulence when a massive bang rocked the jet."

Give me a break.
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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:00 am

I must admit that listening to one of company frequencies last week, one pilot did ask for an engineer to meet him on arrival at MAN (so, that makes the story a bit more incorrect) after having a lightning strike. For the life of me, I can't remember which airline was involved - I think it was Airtours?

David

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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:02 am

One thing I can not stand is the hype that the media gives to everyday occurrences within aviation! Regarding the article supplied by Rick767, planes are built to withstand lightning strikes! Planes are always likely to be struck and the dangers are supposed to be minimal. Planes do not generally just fall out of the sky, do the media in general not understand this?!
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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:24 am

Had a ligtning strike inbound to ALC on a 757 at night in April 2000, wasn't that big a deal and to be honest most passengers probably didn't know what had happened. Later that week another of our 757s had a strike also on approach to ALC!

The media just cram as many "scare" stories like this into one article in their desparate attempt to fool the public into being worried about getting on a plane this Summer.

David,

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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:22 am

ITS A NEAR HIT! If your saying it was a NEAR MISS ......that means they hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK sorry I feel better....but that really annoys me.....think of what they are saying here!
 
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RE: Near Miss Near MAN A Week Ago

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:42 am

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

I think we were on the same frequency at the time.

Sounded very frantic...a 'turn and stop descent' instruction developed into 'avoiding action......avoiding action...turn left immediately....'

Sounded to all intents and purposes as though the BRT crew took their own avoiding action by descending. All credit to them if that is the case.

Anyone got any other info. ? It hasn't made it's way to PPRUNE yet but it was on the BBC radio national news.

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