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9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 1:49 am

I know many airlines config their 777 with 9 seats in a row. However, I know a couple airlines, Emirate and Thai, config their 777 with 10 seats in a row. How can they do that? The seat must be super narrow to accomodate 10 seats in a row.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:00 am

You can't really tell the difference between 10 or 9 abreast, in EK's 777's, the seats are literally 'stuck' together, as in there are no gaps between the seats which creates a few inches of space for the aisle's. Personally, i like 9 abreast seating, with the 3x3 configuration.

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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:04 am

Not really....
The cabin is only a few inches narrower than that of a 747.
It isnt half as bad as squeezing nine across in a A330 or A340 (or any of the Airbus wides).
BA did have Three aircraft for a 'paper' airline which operated flights to some places like Barbados or something from Gatwick. These aircaft tho are being refitted [or i think they have been] into 3-3-3 [from 3-4-3] as the 'paper' airline [cant think of the name any more...] was terminated, and the aircraft are being fitted in a more typical BA fit, without First class i think.
I dont know of any airlines with 10 as standard, but it is interesting to that Emirates and Thai do it... strange.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:04 am

Honestly, who gives a flying shit? I'm not fat so maybe that's it but BA have had such a lot of stick for flying 10-abreast 777s on leisure routes (Havana, Barbados) while Emirates have the same configuration and win every award known to man. I think their wine list won an Oscar. Finnair have 3-4-3 on their MD11s and they're perfectly comfortable.

Some airlines have flown 3-5-3 on 747s as well, apparently.
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:09 am

Not all Eimrates 777's have 10 abreast, only the High density configurations have, other's have 9.

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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:19 am

Lauda Air's B777s have both 9 and 10 abreast seats, with the 10 abreast at the very back accomodating discounted economy or inclusive tour pax alledgedly. - can anyone confirm this?
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:21 am

Yes. that's right NG737PSR, Lauda does have 10 abreast at the rear economu cabin.
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:31 am

9 is normal. 10 is simply hell. I would never fly in a 10 abreast 777 because I find already all economy classes with 9(777), 10(747 or 8(330/340) terribly cramped, like cattle trucks.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:34 am

Thanks for all the responses. If you have to choose between more leg room or wider seat, what would you choose? Personally, I would rather have more leg room than wider seat because I have an average built body.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:55 am

I would choose wider seats AND more legroom  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. I am 180cm (about 6 feet) and have wide shoulders. It is difficult for me to decide. I hate to touch always the shoulders and arms of the neighbor-passengers (unless it is the girl-friend  Smile ) That is why I find ALL economy seats fare to narrow.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 5:37 am

As previously stated, the 777 cabin is only a few inches narrower than that of a 747. The 747 cabin is 20' wide, the 777 cabin is 19'3" wide, only 9" less than the 747. So 10 abreast in a 777 actually isn't that bad, and 9 abreast is even better.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 10:06 am

If you all want to sit in a small seat, sit in the window seat in an A330 with 9-abreast, that seat is SO small, but other than that, the seats in a 9-abreast A330 aren't that bad, and I'm a big guy too, the same goes for 767s and DC-10s with high density seating, so I'd imagine a 777 with 10-abreast is adequate.

Does anyone know which operator has the most seats in a 777 or 747?
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:28 am

I dont think a 747 can be configured in a 3-5-3 configuration.
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:45 pm

THAI has a small fleet of 777-200 with 10-abreast seating in economy. The passengers hate them even though they're only used on short haul routes.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:01 pm

CBA: 10 abreast in a 777 IS very bad. In this case every single inch is very important. 9 abreast in a 330/340 is not bearable, I don't know if there are airlines with this inhuman seating. I would never ever fly an airline with 10 in 777 or 9 in a 330/340. I am looking back to the good old times when Swissair only had 8 abreast in their DC 10.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 5:17 pm

I think most airlines that used to have 10 abreast (Thai, BA) are changing it to 9.

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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 5:19 pm

I have seen seatmaps of SAS 747s with only 9 abreast seating in Economy. I think it was in a 2+4+3 layout as seen nowadays on MD-11s and 777s. Those were the days for comfortable economy travel. Today that kind of economy seating is called 'premium', 'plus', 'extra' and cost lots of extra money.
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 5:37 pm

I wonder if airlines offering a 10 abreast config on their 772 ever heard of customer service and seating comfort.

Why does EK offer this config. and they call them self a excellent Airline?

What I think is also very interesting that a few airlines have 2/5/2 and others 3/3/3.

MH,AA have 2/5/2
NH,KU have 3/3/3

others?
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:00 pm

I travelled on one of the said 777's last year. Was a BA flight operated by AML who operated 3 777's in the 3-4-3 config, with a small club world cabin (which I was in fortunately). The seats looked so narrow it was unbelievable that anyone could fly to the Caribbean for 9 hours in that.

I've booked the same flights again for this year (Club World again Big grin) the reservations agent said the planes had been reconfigured already as they wanted shot of the 3-4-3 interior, and there is a slightly larger biz class, but no first.

Can anyone confirm the reconfig of the planes? What it is going to be now?
 
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RE: 9 Or 10 Seat In A Row In 777

Wed Jun 26, 2002 9:32 pm

Thai is switching to 9 abreast seating. China Southern is another airline with 10 abreast seating, including their long-haul ones to Europe, Australia and the US. The seats in a 10 abreast configuration on the B777 and in a 8 abreast configuration on the B767 have the same width as the seats in Boeing's narrowbody planes. The seats in a 9 abreast configuration on the B777 is 1.5 inch wider than the narrowbody ones. For the standard B767, they are one inch wider than the narrowbody ones. The seats in a 9 abreast configuration on an Airbus widebody are at least one inch narrower than those on a Boeing narrowbody planes.

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