SAAB340
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Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:15 am

Can i get some ideas of how one would go about getting to Singapore from the states? Money is an issue. Anything would be helpful!

Thanks
Paul
 
trey
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:17 am

I recently flew through LAX and Tokoyo to SIN on Singapore Air.
Someitmes Malaysian has cheap deals if you don't mind going through KL.
 
SQ772
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:24 am

If money is an issue, you may want to try NW or UA (assuming that inflight service is not an issue for you). Both fly from the US to SIN via NRT and HKG respectively. They are definitely cheaper than most carriers operating that route. However, you may want to check with your local travel agent. SQ sometimes has some darn good deals out of the US as well.
There's always a better way to fly...
 
SAAB340
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:01 am

Thanks for those ideas! I will look into those possiblities!

Paul
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:07 am

Saab340: If you could supply me with dates, I believe I can be of more help  Smile
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SAAB340
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:11 am

Can I get back to you on that Singapore_Air? Thanks for your interest!

Paul
 
Ex_SQer
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:19 am

Do a search on the web - China Airlines almost always comes out as the cheapest. Also, where in the US are you?
 
jesseycy
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:08 am

A note of warning, if you are planning to take China Airlines! Remember to buy travel insurance! It's just my opinion, but you wouldn't get me to take a China Airlines flight even if it is free!

SQ's good for service, although they are a bit on the expensive side. Same for CX as well. If you want good transportation, why don't you try Malaysia? They have some cheap deals, and they're pretty good as well....
 
speedbird092
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:20 am

A note of warning, if you are planning to take China Airlines! Remember to buy travel insurance!

.... and a parachute! Big grin
 
Businessflyer
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 9:50 am

Generally NW has the cheapest airfares out of the US to Singapore, or so they are always advertising in the Straits Times, but the service is not exactly good! It also depends on which way you are flying. If you are coming from the East, you should look at Alitalia and KLM. From the West, NW and even airlines such as JAL can be quite cheap.
 
andrew
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 10:00 am

If you're going to be travelling that great a distance, I think signing up with a FFP will be a good idea, if you aren't already a member in one.

The alliance that you ultimately decide on will, most importantly, depend on the location of your home base. It makes sense to join an alliance with a carrier that's prominent at your home base, or a carrier that you fly most often with.

A round-trip between the US and Singapore will most certainly qualify you for a a pretty decent award redemption on any alliance.

Good luck with your selection, and have a good trip, mate!


Andrew

 
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:33 am

How about Philippine Airlines ??
 
MAS777
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 8:36 am

Malaysia Airlines offers some of the best fares to Southeast Asia from LAX and EWR - complete with service that is comparative to SQ, CX and other top carriers... why not give them a try?
 
SAAB340
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:19 am

Thanks Everyone for the input!

Below are a few questions about the trip:

Is it a better idea to start from a major hub such as Chicago Ohare or to start from a small connection such as Des Moines?

In taking NW is it better money wise to start from DTW or MSP?

If it is possible to stay within the Star Alliance what airline(s) are cheapest that serve Singapore?

Thanks again everyone for you time input!!

Paul
 
easyjet
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:14 pm

The cheapest option is to fly Northwest. Try NW19 MSP/NRT/SIN
It arrives SIN at about 12:00-1:00 AM in the morning.
Fares are cheaper when you fly less segments.

Check the fare difference online at http://www.nwa.com
In some instances, you can be better off financially starting from a small connection. It all depends on the fare basis.

The star alliance options are SQ and UA, both are quite expensive. In any case, if you do choose Star Alliance, go SQ. My personal opinion is that the IFE is fantastic.

Cheers.
 
Ryanair!!!
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:12 pm

Money is an issue? Northwest... Join the Worldperks FFP because a round trip from US to Asia normally qualifies you for a free trip within the US. However, if in-flight service concerns you, Worldperks FFP's mile can be accrued on Malaysia Airlines as well! Just as cheap, but service 10 times better with PTVs in Y Class (EWR or LAX).

Star Alliance carriers are normally more pricy (SQ, UA).

You have not told us where are you flying out from?
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9V-SVA
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:56 pm

Singapore Airlines(Star Alliance member)

Operates to in US:

SFO
LAX
LAS(2 Aug 02)
ORD
EWR
JFK

LAS and ORD are served by Boeing 777-212ER aircraft, while the rest are served by 747-400s, with the exception of the SFO run which has 1 744 and 1 A340(to be replaced with B772 soon).

9V-SVA
9V-SVA | B772ER
 
SAAB340
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:15 pm

I hope to be flying out from Des Moines Iowa if possible. But I can drive to MSP, ORD or even DTW if need be.

Paul
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:24 pm

Saab340: Got a date yet?
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:33 pm

Singapore_Air

Saab340: If you could supply me with dates, I believe I can be of more help

You would have to be one of the forums biggest morons. Why would anyone need help from some pimply teenager, when they can go to www.singaporeair.com or ring SQ's reservations office themself, and get the exactly the same fares which you will get. You ain't nothing special, and I doubt, in fact, I know without a doubt, that SQ ain't going to give you anything which other people aren't going to be able to get by ringing SQ themselves.

Stop making out like you are public_relations@singaporeair.com.sg and get back to being a teenager....i.e. jerking off over girlie mags (or whatever gets you going)  Insane

Saab340

Other options from America include China Southern Airlines and China Eastern Airlines and Air China. Maybe give these airlines a ring and find out what their promotional fares are like.
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:44 pm

Aviatsiya.ru: My dear, I think that your logic is flawed considering the fact that you have replied to the thread. I also find it amusing that you have actually answered Saab340's question when he could go to various airlines' websites and get the information himself.

Also, you got the e-mail address wrong. Pity.

I am merely trying to help out like the others here. Unfortunately, it;s hard to help when money is the factor and dates aren't supplied.
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
Ryanair!!!
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:47 pm

Aviatsiya.ru,

I believe Singapore_Air's intentions are good, whether is he a pimply teenager jerking off to girlie mags or not. This is a forum so its free for all. It is obvious that the person that posted this thread needed some "human opinion" about travelling out of the US, maybe its his first trip?

So lets cut S_A some slack here. We all know he sings praises of SIA if it was his last breath of life, and he is not even Singaporean. So he will continue to do so... just let him be.

Cheers
Ryan
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Guest

RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:20 am

Singapore_Air....the difference between you and I (apart from me not being a *****) is that I have actually worked for worlds worst airline. The email address for HQ PR used to be public_relations@singaporeair.com.sg (this is what we used to give customers who requested it) (public_affairs is another one). I imagine that the reason they got rid of it, is that they are sick and tired of inane emails from some guy in the UK named Khoawhatever.  Insane

Ryanair....Why should we cut him any slack? He goes around on these forums, trying to make out he has some professional affiliation to SQ, when in actual fact he doesn't.

Trey...care to tell me what my care factor level over your comments should be? In fact, when you come up with what my care factor should be, here, take 40c and go tell someone who could "care" less.  Insane

Saab340...another option...depending on which coast of America you are on, could be Aeroflot via MOW/BKK.
 
Econojetter
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:13 am

Saab340,

In cities where the Asian immigrant population is significant, there are Asian-operated travel agencies that specialise in Asian travel. The prices they offer are usually very competitive. Here's one (based in NYC) I used to call and have them mail my tickets to me when I lived in upstate NY: L&Y Travel Services Co. (Multi Service Enterprises, Inc.) tel:
1-800-258-4900
I left the states 6 years ago, so it may not exist anymore or may operate under a different name etc. If you know anyone of Asian origin who travels fairly often to Asia, ask him/her to recommend a travel agency. Obviously, there are bogus ones out there, so you should be extra careful (e.g. keep receipts, faxes etc.) and ideally go to one that has been recommended to you by someone you trust. Pls note that I do not, in any way, guarantee the service of L&Y. You might just want to call up and get some quotes. After that, you can compare prices with those that your local travel agent or known online budget travel sites will offer. My guess is that you will find the best price through some travel agency and not directly from any particular airline, especially for a fairly indirect routing. You will also find that, as a budget traveler, you have fairly little say on your routing or itinerary.
Meanwhile, I doubt NW would offer very good prices from where you are just because you are close to MSP and DTW, both dominated by NW. The travel agencies I mentioned will most likely have special deals with Asian airlines, usually Korean, EVA Air (Taiwan), China Airlines (Taiwan), Asiana (S. Korean). Both Korean and China have poorer than average safety record, I believe you have been informed by now. From personal experience and hearsay, the 4 abovementioned airlines are usually among the cheapest on the transpacific market although Singapore (also Cathay, JAL or ANA, which are normally perceived as costlier options) may surprise with special low fares during off-peak seasons. Again it will ultimately depend on which agency you purchase your tickets from, while the various posts here on this forum can only give you a list of possibilities.

Good luck.

 
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:04 am

I would like to make it clear that I would like to cease the immature argument at hand and that we should concentrate on getting Saab340 one way or the other. Thank you Ryanair and Trey (though please, no swearing!)
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
n521na
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:06 am

Aviatsiya.ru, if you're going to be an asshole go somewhere else please... thank you.
 
SIA fan
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:04 am

Based on Econojetter idea, Asian travel agents might be able to find you better prices. Here's one: Vacation Planner, you can call them toll-free at 1-888-854-1585. I'm not affiliated with them, but I've been using them since 1996 for my two roundtrips each year between the US and Asia and have been very satisfied. They are family owned and operate out of Walnut, Calif. (near LA) and will deliver the tickets to anywhere in the US.
SQ*G BD*S
 
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Singapore_Air

Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:43 am

OK...benefit of the doubt time.

I want to travel from Los Angeles to Singapore one-way one adult on 7 August 2002.

Can you tell me what the fare you would find is for this flight?
 
Guest

Where's Singapore_Air?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:36 pm

Cmon man....waiting for that fare from you.....can't you help me out?
 
SQ325
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 7:06 pm

SQ025 JFK-FRA-SIN you arrive 6:15am @ SIN!
 
Ryanair!!!
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:13 pm

LAX-SIN... check out the SIA website. They have internet fare specials... Plus a great way to travel because chances are it would be an e-ticket. No hassles, just turn up with your credit card.
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SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:07 pm

I have no intention in aiding individuals who show no respect or maturity.

As Ryanair!!! said, visit the SIA website. www.yahoo.com should direct you to it if you search for Singapore Airlines.
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
Guest

RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:19 pm

Priceless!! Absolutely priceless!!! Where did I say that I wanted a fare for a Singapore Airlines flight?

The reason you won't give me the fare, is that you were only going to go to the SQ website and get it from there...something which any drongo can do without trouble.

Instead of acting like some make-believe Reservations Sales Agent and Ticket Officer, why don't you in future just give people the URL for the Singapore Airlines website, and say that their fares are there; it really makes you look like an embarrassment when you go on and on and on about the monster which is SQ.

 Insane  Insane  Insane  Insane
 
hkg82
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:23 am

Aviatsiya.ru:
You've made a point, but it isn't going to get to him (Singapore_Air)....

It's amazing the number of people he's managed to seriously piss off on this forum unintentionally but he's without doubt the person to go to if you've got any SQ-related questions  Smile

Hkg82.
 
Spark
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:44 am

I keep a constant watch on fares to SIN from SFO and OAK on my Yahoo travel watcher. The fares are almost always under $600. Most of the time UA is the cheapest option (they dominate SFO), but I've seen SQ a few times. Ironically, NW is almost never the cheapest fare. Their non-promotional fares suck!
Personally I would stick with the Asian Carriers rather than fly either UA or NW. EVA, Asiana, and JAL are always good options. JAL is a nice choice, because you can get a hotel room at Narita (very, very, very small) which will at least get you a shower between the trips. It might be a hair longer trip, but the break makes the trip much more pleasant (it's a really long trip).
 
jesseycy
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:46 am

Singapore_Air, you are becoming quite the celebrity! Together with Hkgspotter1 Maybe we should hold some type of polls to vote for the most known member!
(No offence intended)

But I always believe that it's good to get some type of decent IFE on such a long flight, which makes Malaysia, SQ, and CX good options! If you go pricewise, Malaysia's not bad, but if you do want the miles, which would be great, considering you could almost surely get a free flight inside the US, SQ and CX are good too! If Worldperks, go with Malaysia, Star, SQ, oneWorld/AA, go with CX....
 
Ryanair!!!
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:57 am

Stop all these senseless picking on one another please... at the end of the the day, we are all trying to help one another with the help of our personal biased opinions (whether does it really help... I leave it up to you).

Aviatsiya.ru, seriously cut him some slack. Some people show they like the airline in many ways, for S_A's this is his way. Unless you can accept that you will encounter millions of characters in a.net, you really should not come in here at all because people like S_A will always be around to annoy you. Not very healthy tobe annoyed all the time, only a matter of time before you burst a blood vessel or a vein.

Now... on to something more related to the threat...I mean thread. You know, after all that controversy, China Airlines might offer very competitive fares if money is really an issue. Their 747-400s and A340s they use on the trans-Pacific routes are one of the latest off the line from their respective factories.

Coming from where you are, flying Northwest gives you a bunch of Asian airlines to partner with. Malaysia Airlines (MH) and Air China (CA) (not China Airlines (CI)! They are different!!!) . Those are two pretty decent Asian carriers with the former with more cabin facilities in terms IFEs. But you would need to fly NWA to SFO (CA), LAX (MH, CA), or EWR (MH) in order to set foot on one of these airlines.

Good luck!

Ryan
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MAS777
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Mon Jul 01, 2002 8:38 pm

From DTW or MSP, you could fly NWA via the Pacific or via Amsterdam. Purchase a ticket with Malaysia Airlines (KLM and supposedly NWA's partner) and you also benefit from Malaysia Airlines stopover programme giving you two free stopovers in Malaysia (into AND out of Singapore).
 
Guest

Emergency Buttoctomy, Stat!

Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:03 pm

Aviatsiya.ru,

I love the sense in your post:

...is that I have actually worked...

So you don't work with an airline any more? There's a shocker...

You know what? In the non-aviation forum there has been a lot of discussion over circumcision. I think it would be better if there was a thread about discussing surgical procedures that could remove the sticks from the @rses of certain posters.

But then again that is only my opinion.

Signed

EmergencyButtoctomySurgeon, aka SixStarAnsett
 
nicolasrolland
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RE: Best Route To Singapore?

Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:05 pm

If you feel like coming thru Vancouver
SQ operate lovely flights on 772ER

 Wink/being sarcastic

Come and visit Vancouver Airport you'll enjoy it Im sure
It's flight SQ17 AND SQ18
they operate something like 3 or 4 times per week...

Nick

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