captaingomes
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YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:55 pm

http://cnews.canoe.ca/NationalTicker/CANOE-wire.Airport-Cellphone-Ban.html

Here's an interesting article which in my opinion is shocking, especially when considering the hub nature of Pearson International Airport! Business travellers especially will be pissed off that they cannot call their employers, companies or families when travelling through YYZ. I wonder if Air Canada will be changing their route network down the road so as not to use YYZ as their major hub because of this.
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:01 pm

Have you even read the article past the title???

The airport is telling the telecom network providers that unless they improve the very poor reception around the airport that the airport will turn off the power to the transceivers until they do provide better equipment.

People now can't call each other at the airport because of the telcos' incompetence (or uncaring attitude) and complaining to the airport (which has no influence in the matter).
This is just a public outcry against the telcos after private channels didn't work.
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:22 pm

Yes, in fact I did read the article, did you?

"The Greater Toronto Airports Authority announced power will be cut Wednesday to communications equipment owned by four companies that provide airport cellular service.
The GTAA said Rogers Wireless, Bell, Telus and Microcell have failed to come up with $1 million dollars each to improve cellular signal strength."


Maybe I should say "ban" but instead say "cut". It also says security and other agencies are stocking up on 2 way radios because of this.
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:26 pm

<< Business travellers especially will be pissed off that they cannot call their employers, companies or families when travelling through YYZ. >

Why? Have they also removed pay phones?
 
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:46 pm

No, of course they have not removed payphones. You can't expect business travellers to line up for pay phones. How barbaric. With YYZ competing for connecting traffic with DTW, EWR, ORD (and to a VERY small degree YUL), any little thing that pisses off business travellers will make them avoid YYZ (if T1 and T2 have not done so already).

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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:47 pm

Where would Air Canada then move thier hub to? Buffalo? Chicago? What about the O&D traffic in Toronto? Will it suffer because Mr. Platinum Elite can't make a call on his cellphone?
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:24 am

Well lets see...if cell reception sucks at the airport, aren't they already lining up for those pay phones that the barbarians installed so they can get a better connection to the person that they need to speak with?
 
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:44 am

I think you guys are missing the point. Of course, Air Canada will not move their hub from Toronto because of this, I was suggesting maybe they will move some flights out of YYZ. But this will cause more than a little inconvenience to people, and especially the business travellers who use YYZ as a hub on Air Canada's network. I think it's in Air Canada's interest to do whatever it can to fight the GTAA's decision to cut cell phone signals at the airport. Also, the article mentions that faxes and internet services will suffer because of this. I'm assuming that deals with laptops which use cellular networks to get internet and fax services. Again, if you are a business traveller, and are in YYZ for some time and have work to get done during that time, especially in a delay, it will be more than a little inconvenient for this traveller, and they just might change their travel plans next time around in order to avoid YYZ.

Of course, this will bite the GTAA's ass in the end because they are building the new terminal, and are making YYZ seem like such a world class airport in many respects. If this is the sort of thing which will happen there, trust me, they will be far from world class.
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:56 am

>>>I was suggesting maybe they will move some flights out of YYZ

Of all the things that go into the consideration for scheduling flights, the availability/suitability of cell fone reception at the airport is *not* one of them...

Otherwise, an interesting article.... Maybe the "big-stick" approach will force the appropriate powers that be to fix their technical problems....
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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:41 am

OPNLguy, I do agree that cell phone coverage is not much of a consideration, but the satisfaction levels of their top customers better be. If YYZ will prove to have many faults, one of them which could be this, then in the long run, you never know what will happen. I know it sounds silly, but I'll bet the GTAA thinks the same thing. They probably think that this will not affect them in any way, so who cares. Well, the who cares attitude will extend to other areas, and the quality of the general airport might suffer as a result, and that might end up hurting YYZ in the long run especially as the so called world class hub it is marketing the airport to be.

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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:47 am

Mobile phone service in YYZ does suck though. Hopefully it will have some results as I will spending many hours at the airport in future.

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RE: YYZ Bans Cell Phones

Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:53 am

No, of course they have not removed payphones. You can't expect business travellers to line up for pay phones. How barbaric.

Makes one wonder what the did before cell phones Big grin
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