MCMAHONSMR
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AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:13 am

I'm too used to flying in Europe and need to know the best airline for the JFK-LAX run....I'm going towards UA because of the cheaper fare but I've gotten used to AA on the JFK-LHR runs and have been very happy but the 762 doesn't excite me.....what do I do? Any opinions welcomed!!!

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:19 am

UA is very nice, and UA wants your business. On UA, the 767-200 is nothing special. Infact, it is not up to the same levels in terms of its interior as the 767-300 is. However, on the other side, the crews are usually friendly, and offer a good/great level of service in all cabins.

If UA is cheaper, go with them.

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:24 am

While I like UA, simply from the perspective of legroom I'd go with AA. The service and IFE are similar on UA and AA (I haven't flown Delta on the route). If UA is significantly cheaper, though, I'd stick with UA.

(Of course, there is always JetBlue to LGB....)
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:36 am

I say go with the AA. Firstly they do have that MRTC (more room throughout coach) which really makes a difference. Plus they just renovated their terminal at LAX and taht might be interesting to check out.
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:39 am

Flew JFK-LGB this morning on AA 757. About 40 people on the flight nobody for 4 rows in front of me.

MRTC all the way.
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Delta15
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:44 am

If your flying in a premium class, I would choose delta for its domestic business elite service. Superb!
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:04 am

Go with AA. Of the six JFK-LHR flight a day, five are with the 777. If your flying coach the extra legroom will be nice. Especially on a trans-Atlantic flight.
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:15 am

Especially on a trans-Atlantic flight.

Last I checked, JFK-LAX wasn't transatlantic unless you go the long way round....  Smile
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:18 am

LMP737 is AA still doing the 777 on that run? I thought it was only the month of June as training for the upcoming LAX-NRT route?

Sorry to get off the subject, Mcmahonsmr what are your preferences?
Direct or connecting?
Plane type?
Price?

I personally chose by price with plane type a close second!
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:20 am

Hey, go to LGB and fly jetBlue

They will be cheaper without a doubt and the service is always dependable.

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:19 am

I would go with AA. I always thought their service was a little above United and Delta, plus MRTC. However, if you want to sacrifice legroom and go with the cheaper fare, that might not be a bad idea.

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:29 am

Fly with Delta- for at the most 80 dollars, you have a chance to upgrade into BusinessElite on the flight depending on how open the Firstclass/BusinessElite cabin is.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:34 am

For at the most 80 dollars, you have a chance to upgrade into BusinessElite on the flight depending on how open the Firstclass/BusinessElite cabin is.

No. For at the most 80 dollars from a K FARE OR HIGHER, you have a chance to upgrade into BizElite. Unfortunately, the K fare itself is about $200 more than the cheapest fare in the market. So esentially, its $280 to upgrade.
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:42 am

I have flown all three and it depends on what you want. United's service in all three classes (First, Business, and Economy) are very good although the 767-200's are beginning to show their age, inside and out. They are clean and well maintained, but they are not as nice as UA's 767-300ER's. United's cabin crew in this market are usually friendly, professional, and caring. I've always had a good flight going to LAX and SFO and SEA for that matter, although the SEA flights are operated with A320's, not widebodies (used to be a 757).

American's advantages are MRTC, a greater chance of flying on a 767-300ER (I think AA has more of those going to the West Coast from JFK than UA, which has only one, to SFO, and none to LAX). Apart from that, the service on both carriers are virtually the same.

Delta's BusinessElite to LAX and SFO outdoes both the AA and UA product in terms of comfort, ergonomics, and amenities, but DL has far fewer flights, 3 nonstops max to each city, making it less attractive schedule wise. I've also found Delta's service in Economy to be average at best.

I think you'll find all three basically provide the same. Delta's Business Elite is the clear winner in the premium cabin, but all are fine choices.

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:06 pm

B747-437B- so I am correct.. for 80 bucks, he could upgrade depending on his ticket level. The whole 200 dollar bit is more or less a play on words in my eyes. If the person would be interested in this, they could call the Delta reservation line and get a quote on the price for a ticket in which they could use the upgrade. Also depending on the price on AA, or UA, he could always spend less or slightly more on Delta to be able to have the ability to upgrade, which would remove the whole "280 to upgrade" argument of yours if it close to what he would pay elsewhere.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:10 pm

2cn - you have no clue how revenue travel on Delta works do you?
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:23 pm

B747-437B- what exactly am I wrong about? Please, inform me.. instead of just insulting me by saying I do not know what I am talking about.. at least tell me what it is I am inncorrect on.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:36 pm

When you factor in the higher fare required to be purchased (the lowest upgradeable fare currently is $121 more than the lowest AA or UA fare in the market) plus the $80 extra for the upgrade itself, you are paying $201 more than you would on the cheapest fare (DL, AA or UA). Hence, even though you are marketing it as a $80 upgrade, its actually $200 to upgrade and $120 for a CHANCE to upgrade.
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:00 pm

Again, what have I said that is wrong? I have said, depending on his fare he could upgrade for 80 dollars (yes in my first post I didn't go into fare levels, as I have not been quite sure what fares can and can not, and I did not have a recent NewsDigest infront of me). Depending on when he books, he may not be paying extra for this chance besides the 80 dollars. Also, if he were to fly on the late night flight out of JFK to LAX (around 10 pm) and the red eye back to JFK (gets in about 6 am) those flights I've found have always been quite open in both cabins, and the person would have a good chance to upgrade. Again, as I said, this option all depends on what he ends up paying. Hopefully he shops around and if the price to be able to upgrade is near or the same as the rest, then it might be worth his while to try.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:59 pm

Correction.

There are 3 daily 767-300s b/n SFO-JFK this summer.

2 in the morning.
1 on the redeye.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 2:10 pm

JFKTOWERFAN:

AA schedule for next week shows five 777 flights from JFK-LHR.

Mcmahonsmr:

If you have miles with AA you might as well stick with AA. Besides, you get MRTC.
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 2:12 pm

AA MRTC is a clear winner if you are flying coach.
But I must agree with others check out JetBlue, they sound like a very good economic alternative.

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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 2:15 pm

One thing to keep in mind is that AA's 767s do not have PTVs in Coach.

United's 763s have PTVs and Economy Plus, which is better than MRTC if you qualify, or are lucky enough to be granted E+ after asking for it on day of departure.
 
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Wed Jul 03, 2002 3:17 pm

Fly Delta! DL is the the best airline in the world! J/K!
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RE: AA/DL/UA On JFK - LAX - Who Do I Choose?

Thu Jul 04, 2002 5:29 am

Its a done deal - did some reworking and got economy on AA for $295 roundtrip, miles and MRTC on 762's.

Me happy!!

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