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The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:37 pm

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EGFF
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:22 pm

Fantastic news for us down at Cardiff ... not only do i have to endure an 8hr trip to get to EMA like last time, but it's bringing 100 new jobs! brilliant  Big thumbs up
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EGFF
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:23 pm

That should have said 'not only i dont have to endure'
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 1:28 am

bmibaby are looking at having all 733's from bmi main stream service and a lot of the -500 series in the fleet within 2-3 years. i cant wait to see new routes from EMA for next summer. There may be a 3rd base within 2 years too.

all from an inside source

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airblue
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 4:13 pm

It seems they choose to compete very close with GO, since Cardiff and Bristol are quite close. I think they will offer many of the same destinations offered by GO from Bristol.

 
EGNM-LBA
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 7:16 pm

BDRules - LBA-LHR services are switching from 733 to A320 from the start of the winter, with the 733 heading off to Baby so this is definitely the direction they're taking. As for EMA, I wouldn't be surprised to see the next move being the transfer of EDI/GLA services to 'Baby' from Bmi regional to provide more cost-effective competition to Go.

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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 8:00 pm

Talk is that there's no place at EMA for ERJ-145s from next spring, so the supposition that EMA'll go all Baby might not be far wide of the mark. Absolute disaster as far as I'm concerned if it happens. Just booked two tickets EMA-AMS return on BMI mainline for £27 plus tax, and based on the fares Baby are charging on their existing services I'm hard pressed to see how Baby will do it much cheaper if they take over - but of course with Baby all the extras like food and drink will be on top no matter how much you pay.

Actually, leaving aside the few extra destinations they're serving where comparisons aren't possible, that's all Baby is doing as far as I can tell - same or pretty much the same fares as BMI mainline used to have if you book far enough in advance, but with all the extras taken away. Nice cost saving exercise for BMI in reality, that's all.

Scam in my book - tell people they're getting low fares, have a few headline cheapies displayed on the web-site, and everyone believes it.

Andy
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bmi
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 8:26 pm

bmibaby are wicked, been on them twice RTN now and love them, and the prices Im quoted are usually cheap, unless you're flying to say AGP which seems a bit pricy for the time I selected and I did flind cheaper seats on a flight only basis with a UK charter from a more mainstream UK airport however bmibaby offer good deals to DUB practically all the time.

So keep on going WW, i'm right behind ya  Smile

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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 9:35 pm


I wonder if the EMA based ERJ145s will be displaced to MAN & LBA then? LBA would probably get a non-stop German (not made up my mind - which one is best FRA or MUC?) link at long last and possibly a CPH one as well.

Don't know where any "new" MAN based ERJ145 would go to though.

David
 
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 9:49 pm

And as BMI are reducing their onboard service, there is really little between them at present. Was surprised to see the full breakfast reduced to a Bacon Panini..

CWL is a weird move, as it has quite a small catchment area when compared to Bristol. If you look at same-carrier services at BRS and CWL, BRS services usually have at least twice the capacity. FR are a good example, having never had more than a daily service from CWL. BA have basically abandoned the airport, leaving Air Wales.
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Skymonster
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:21 pm

BestWestern,

Agreed, CWL was indeed a strange choice - I'd guess that big Mick up at Donington Hall got an awesome deal on landing fees at CWL!!!
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EGFF
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 1:22 am

Cardiff is the most expensive airport to fly from in the Uk, or it was at one point and ground fee's were incredible ... he must have got a good offer!
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trintocan
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:31 am

That's a good thing for Cardiff, it seems to be an underserved market indeed. I had looked for low-cost carriers into CWL some time ago and found only Ryanair, which flies to DUB. Aside from Air Wales, KLM, BA (which has cut many of its services) and the holiday flyers there was nobody else - and the airport often looks near-deserted.

This is good news for South Wales, more choices for passengers in this area. It will also eliminate the drive/train journey to Bristol to get cheap flights.

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EGFF
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 9:52 am

Trintocan - Nice to see a fellow welshman around the forums  Big thumbs up
As for Cardiff being deserted most of the time, when i've been there you get periods of 1-2hrs where nothing comes in but what i find with Cardiff is everything comes in in batches.
I can't wait for them to get bookings started next month, hopefully they'll offer some more free flights to mark the opening of the base like EMA ... i wont have to endure an 8hr trip like last time then, just 20mins in car  Smile
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gkirk
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 6:35 pm

Yes, I agree this is good news for CWL and EGFF  Big grin
So Cardiff will now be getting more than just those Glider's and Microlites  Smile
Oh yeah, and those parked 747s  Big grin
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EGFF
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:23 pm

Graham ... i hear the CWL-NCL microlite service is going up from 1 a day to 3  Big thumbs up
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gkirk
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:24 pm

Good news  Big thumbs up
What about the Cardiff-Swansea 747 route?  Laugh out loud
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Skymonster
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RE: The New Base For BMI Baby Is...

Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:53 pm

Even The Times seemed to think CWL was a bit of a bizarre choice - limited catchment area (not too many people in Wales other than in Cardiff itself and Swansea) and quite close to BRS.

Oh well, I guess Big Mick at the Hall knows what he's doing!

Andy
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