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Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 12:36 pm

My friends flew PER-SYD-LAX-YVR yesterday. On their ticket, it says the Perth-Sydney portion was "operated by AWAS for QANTAS", aircraft Boeing 767-300/300ER. What is AWAS?
 
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RE: Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 1:47 pm

AWAS - Ansett World Aviation Services I think. Its now currently replaced by AWOPS (Australian Wetleasing Operations Pty Ltd) which is owned by QF.

Aircraft is either VH-NOA, or VH-BZI


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RE: Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 1:55 pm

After Ansett's demise, Qantas leased in additional aircraft for extra capacity. Just about all these aircraft have been returned, one exception is an all-white Ansett Worldwide Air Services 767-300 that usually operates on SYD-PER.

 
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RE: Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 2:54 pm

Arent there still 2 of them? NOA and BZI?
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RE: Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 5:16 pm

On a related topic, Qantas' New Zealand domestic operations btwn AKL and CHC/WLG are also operated by AWOPS. Are these franchise operations or actual QF flights using leased-in aircraft? If they are the latter, I wonder why QF make such a big deal highlighting the fact - on passenger boarding passes and painted by door 1R is the unmissable 'Operated for Qantas by AWOPS'.
 
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RE: Qantas Question

Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:00 pm

It's a legal requirment to inform all pax that they are not actually on a "Qantas" aircraft but on one operated on behalf of Qantas by Awops.
Same as on all codeshare flts that Qantas codeshares on. Again a legal requirement to inform all pax that although it has a QF flight number it is not a "Qantas" aircraft.
 
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RE: Qantas Question

Sun Jul 07, 2002 9:50 am

Qantas uses ex AN 733's in NZ!! They are VH-CZR, CZS, CZU and JNE!
 
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RE: Qantas Question

Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:06 am

I worked on the sale of AWOPS to QF. As V-Jet says, it is a legal requirement that pax are notified if they are not flying aboard a QF aircraft. The crews are all ex AWAS people as well.

AWAS still exists (AWOPS was its wet leasing arm), and there are still 150+aircraft flying around the world which are dry leased from AWAS.

The DHL aircraft that collided in Germany with the TU154 last week was an ex-AWAS aircraft which was sold to DHL in 2000. We previously had another B757F which was wet leased to DHL, but that lease was terminated in April 2002, and the aircraft is now, as I understand it, flying with Cameroon Airlines.
 
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RE: Qantas Question

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:15 am

So what are the actual differences b/n a QF flight and one operated by AWOPS. Is the seating on the aircraft any different, or is it merely a cosmetic difference on the aircraft? I have noticed that the 763 SYD-CNS is an AWOPS aircraft. Has anyone flown this route on AWOPS? Also if given the choice would you fly QF or AWOPS for QF? Would appreciate the advice as I need to book this routing soon. Thanks.