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10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:11 pm

For those that are interested, there are now 10 Qantas 747-400's online fitted with PTV's in Economy Y Class. Their rego's are as follows

Kangaroo Config

VH-OJB,OJC,OJE,OJF,OJK,OJL,OJP & OJQ

Pacific Config

VH-OJR & OJU

You might notice also from this list that aircraft VH-OJP was once Pacific Config aircraft. Obviously Qantas have taken this opportunity to change OJP over to Kangaroo Config. It's possible that OJL or OJQ may also have been Pacific Config, but I don't have this information handy.

Hope this information is of interest.

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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:12 am

So, what's the difference between the two configs? Is it the size of the Business class?
Also, do their modified Economy class offer foot-rests?

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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:27 am

Difference would be in the number of F,J,Y class available. Cant remember the stats though, my apologies.
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 3:10 am

Kangaroo config:

OJA OJB OJC OJD OJD OJE OJF

OJG OJH OJK OJM OJN OJO

14 F 35 J 315Y


Pacific config:

OEB OEC OED OJI OJJ OJL

OJP OJQ OJR OJS OJT OJU

14 F 49 J 265 Y


These figures are from the QF timetable, and aircraft sometimes appear on the 'wrong' route.


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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:13 am

Those Pacific aircraft used mainly on LAX flights have 79 Business class!!
The Kangaroo ones have 65 Business!!

Hey QF744 there is only 1 VH-OJD 744 anyway! Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Does anyone no which 744 aircraft will be reconfigured to 2 Class?? None of the ones already done I guess.
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:13 pm

Does anyone knows if Qantas is keeping the Wunala dreaming livery on VH-OJB ?


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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:04 pm

I hope so. OJB doesn't come to AKL very often nowadays since it is usually on European flights!
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:28 pm

VH-OJB is still in Wunala Dreaming c/s after its D check and IFE. Apparently its back in service.
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:53 am

Wunala Dreaming VH-OJB was due back into service on July 2nd with both the new IFE in all classes, and the new cabin colours i.e. new seat fabrics, curtains, carpets, cushions etc.

During this IFE installations Qantas have also taken the opportunity to change aircraft VH-OJL, OJP & OJQ from their Pacific Config to the Kangaroo Config.

It's anyone's guess at this stage which 747-400 aircraft will be changed to the even newer 2 Class (Business & Economy) config. It's probably a good guess that the older Pacific Config aircraft might be an option, as the newer 747-400er's come online later this year. It's been confirmed that these new 747-400er's will be delivered in the Pacific Config of 14F/79J/265Y.

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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:02 am

Wunala is indeed back in service - saw her yesterday on the way to work as she was on short finals onto 34L. Looking very clean and sparkly although the Sun was at the right angle to make her shine. I thought it was the ugly sisters that are coming off the Pacific and being converted to 2 class for Asian routes, but could be wrong.
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am

Isnt the installation of the PTVs in the QF 744s taking a very long time, about 2 years ago QF leased a BA 744 to allow for the down-time while the QF 744s were being fitted with the new video equipment (and other upgrades, revisions and maintenance), and now, only 10 aircraft are competed?

Is QF on schedule, or is something up?
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Tue Jul 09, 2002 11:13 am

It certainly seems to have taken Qantas a long time to get to 10 aircraft fitted with PTV's in Y Class.

I believe however, after Ansett's collapse last September, a good many Qantas 747's were used for Domestic Flying, especially from SYD/MEL to PER, and SYD to CNS. This probably slowed the process down some what.

During the months of June & July 2002, 3 aircraft VH-OJU, OJB & OJK have all been fitted with the new system, and interiors. So lets hope they have now started to speed up the process. Qantas have also began advertising the new Y Class PTV's in Australian Newspapers, saying that the 744 fleet would be completed by the end of the year.

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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:50 pm

Which QF744s are refered to as the ugly sisters?
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:35 pm

The 3 GE powered ones Dave!! VH-OEB, OEC and OED!! Saw OEB on Sunday arriving from BNE as QF25 going to LAX! Although they will be joined by 6 747-438ER's starting October which will be powered by GE!
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:46 am

Correct, Crosscheck - the whole reason they hired in VH-NLH was to release an aircraft to be reconfigured. The collapse of Ansett saw a redistribution of resources, and we now have 4 (I think it is 4) 747's operating domestic ops each day. This is bound to have an effect on 747 availability, and consequently an effect on the availability to release 747 for cabin upgrades.

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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:54 am

There are several reasons for the delayed rollout of the Y class PTVs.

- Collapse of AN led to redistribution of resources. Whilst this did delay the rollout to a degree, its effect has been overstated because it is the best reason for PR spin purposes.

- Initial reliability. When first installed (OJE I think) QF had a deal of trouble getting the system operating satisfactorily and the rollout was slowed whilst this was corrected.

- Installation delays Initially all upgrades were done just at Avalon. This has proved too slow and upgrades are now carried out at Avalon, the QF jetbase in SYD and by NZ in AKL. This has now been further delayed by an industrial dispute in AKL meaning a 744 due to have commenced upgrade by NZ last week has remained in service until the industrial problems are resolved.
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:02 pm

Are the new business class cabins being installed during this upgrade or is that going to be XX amount of extra years down the track????

Why did they even bother with that press release?
 
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RE: 10 QF PTV 744's Now Online

Fri Jul 12, 2002 5:52 pm

Tullamarine - "- Initial reliability. When first installed (OJE I think) QF had a deal of trouble getting the system operating satisfactorily and the rollout was slowed whilst this was corrected."

There might be some truth to this, on my flight from MEL to LHR on QF9 on 06FEB, they could not get the IFE to work until 90 minutes after take-off - they kept on announcing that they were rebooting it, and it should work shortly.

They eventually got it working on the MEL-SIN sector (which I flew in Y), and it worked from the word go on the SIN-LHR sector, which I flew in J. I specifically asked - whilst they were having problems on the MEL-SIN sector - whether the problems they were having would impact upon my J sector from SIN to LHR - they said that they knew what the problem was, and they would get it sorted. Seems they were right.

Dave