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How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:10 am

FOKKER - is the "o" long or short?

KAI TAK - is it "KAY TAK" or KYE TAK"

SCHIPHOL- is the emphasis on the first or second syllable? is the "H" silent?
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:18 am

Emphasis is on 'Schip' and the 'h' is almost silent but not quite....I don't know about the others though.

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:19 am

Is it "FOL" or "POL"?
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:23 am

It's a bit like 'Sh-kip-hol'.....if you have heard a dutch person speaking you would be able to appreciate the way it is said!


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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:23 am

Short O in Fokker

Kye Tak

Schipol can best be pronounced as a drunken Irishman would pronounce Skip, i.e shcip followed by ol, as in doll
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:53 am

Fokker is pronounced like it's vulgar homonym.

Kai Tak is pronounced like the word eye with a k (Keye) and Tak.

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:11 am

Those little Fokkers!!!!
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:16 am

'Fokker' is pronounced as 'Focker' as in 'Locker'.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:22 am

The Schiphol matter is a complicated one.

The literal translation is Ship Hole, so the "-hol" part is quite easy to pronounce. "Schip-" is more difficult, though. You know how the Spaniards pronounce a "j"? Cojones, Navajo etc. That´s how the Dutch "ch" is pronounce. So it´s S-*J*ip-Hole, the *J* pronounced the Spanish way.

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:28 am

A short linguistic note -
in most of the cases when you see a double consonant, the vowel before it is short - so Fokker is ['fok..] as opposed to focus ['fouk..]

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:30 am

When the Dutch guys that I worked with pronounced Fokker, it almost sounded like Folker to me. Say it with a big green hocker in your throat and you will be close. I'm almost willing to bet that there are different Dutch accents from different regions that would make a difference too. Just like there are different American accents from all over our country.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:42 am

Fokker- as pronounced correctly- is FOE KER. Not focker. Only people from Texas are allowed to say focker. Remember- FOE KER.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:38 am

OK, there seems to be a disagreement here regarding Fokker. Who's right?  Confused

FOE KER or FOCKER

Oh yeah, here's another one: Dorval DORval or dorVAL?
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:44 am

I've always pronounced it as 'Focker', and will continue to do so.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:59 am

FOKKER - Foker (the o is like locker)

KAI TAK - Kye Tak

SCHIPHOL- Schkipol
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 6:56 am

I was on the TrAAin at DFW and I saw a pilot on it. I asked him... what do you fly? He said F-100. I replied:

How do those little Fokkers handle?

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 7:22 am

Is the Tak in Kai Tak pronounced like the word "tack" or is the a pronounced like "ah"?
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:23 pm

I know a pilot who flies the F-100 for American Airlines and he says that it's Foe-ker.
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:28 pm

I've always heard Fokker pronouced Foe-ker.

Dorval is Dorrr-VAL. Rolling the 'r' and emphasis on the VAL; Val, as in the short form of the name Valerie...not Vol, which I have heard before.
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 2:42 pm

Hey people- it's a dutch/german pronunciation- FOE KER. If an english guy named it it'd be focker but it is dutch so therefore is foe ker.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:00 pm

Here are some:


EICAS (ee-sauce)
ECAM (ee-cam)
FLCH (fllch) kinda like filch
FADEC (faydeck)
ETOPS (e-tops)

Are those pronounced those ways or do you say each letter?

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:07 pm

EICAS = i-kaas

The rest are ok.


 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:14 pm

Dorval is simply pronounced "door-val", never heard anyone rolling the "r" unless they have a romanian accent, and a AC340 stated, not dorvol but dorVAL
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:17 pm

Thanks, Ben88!

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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 7:40 pm

Crank,
I never roll the r in Dorval; I actually pronouce in the way you would,
Door-Val.

But every French person I have ever talked to would roll their r when pronoucing it. From Quebecers it sounds more like a phlegmy, throat sound than a deliberate rrrrr sound...did that making any sense?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:18 pm

'Hey people- it's a dutch/german pronunciation- FOE KER. If an english guy named it it'd be focker but it is dutch so therefore is foe ker.'

Not! It's definitely pronounced as 'focker' in Dutch. Actually 'fokken' means to breed, so a 'fokker' is a breeder. But then again you can only call a real 'fokker' a fokker, if you don't want to find yourself in trouble!

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I guess pronunciation in German would be different as well since the Germans don't roll the 'r' at the end of a word
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:57 pm

SCHIPHOL- is the emphasis on the first or second syllable?

The dutch pronounce it both ways. You hear people say SCHIPhol as well as schipHOL.

The literal translation is Ship Hole - Airsicknessbag

This is correct. The airport is located in what used to be lake 'Haarlemmermeer'. The Ship Hole was in the upper north east of this lake. With the prevailing south western winds a lot of (sailing) ships have sunk near Schiphol, hence the name.

AMS, being built on the bottom of a former lake, is the only international airport as low as 4 metres below sea level.
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 9:16 pm

Kai Tak - Kye Tack

Is the French word "Mayday" pronounced the same as English?
 
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 9:20 pm

The French word is "m'aider" which yeah sounds kinda like Mayday. Mayday is how it's pronounced in English.
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RE: How Do You Pronounce These Aviation Words

Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:33 pm

N766ua,

Hey people- it's a dutch/german pronunciation- FOE KER. If an english guy named it it'd be focker but it is dutch so therefore is foe ker.

Uhm.. NO. Fokker is pronounced as 'focker'. Of this I am 1000% sure. How do I know? Dutch is my mother-tongue, and I've never heard anyone say 'foe ker'.

Linguistic explanation should convince you even more. Fokker has a double K in it. The double k is there for a reason, i.e. to indicate that the vowel preceding it is pronounced SHORT. This is a rule in Dutch. How do I know? I'm a Dutch teacher, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

As for the 'Schiphol' pronunciation: read Airsicknessbag's post. That's pretty much right on the money.