jgore
Posts: 518
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2002 2:41 am

Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:42 am

Anyone knows if there's any aircraft out there that was never involved in an accident or incident?

Thanks

jgore  Smile
 
FlagshipAZ
Posts: 3192
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2001 12:40 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:45 am

If you mean in a case where the aircraft wasn't written off, or had an injured passenger...two comes to mind. The 717 & the 777. Regards.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
 
coboeing777
Posts: 677
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2001 10:21 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:46 am

All the ones that are still flying  Smile

Actually, are you talking about aircraft types that have never had a fatal crash or ones that have never been in some kind of incident. I dont think any aircraft can claim the latter. However, there have yet to be any fatal crashes of a 777. I hope it stays that way too.
 
jgore
Posts: 518
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2002 2:41 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:48 am

Accident=Crash ; Incident=Mechanical,Operations,Technical,Emergencies,Etc.Nothing regarding passengers.

jgore  Smile
 
Guest

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:34 am

The Il-86, Il-96, Tu-204 and Tu-214 all come to mind.
 
lubcha132
Posts: 2642
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2001 10:37 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:37 am

A318
737-900 maybe?
757-300 tho i think there was a Condor incident.
 
IMissPiedmont
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed May 23, 2001 12:58 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:37 am

That would, of course, be the Starr Bumblebee. There really is no airliner that has not had an incident.
The day you stop learning is the day you should die.
 
Spacepope
Posts: 3182
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 1999 11:10 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:53 am

Aeroflot lost an IL-86 a few months back in Dubai. No injuries, but the pilots evidently forgot to lower the landing gear. The A-340 has never had an operational hull loss, although 2 have been written off in hangar fires and gun battles. 3 A-330's have been written off without fatalities, plus one that was lost in testing. A-319 and A-321 have spotless records so far. On the boeing side, the 737NG, 717, 753, 764, and 777 have no hull losses. The 717 does have an "incident" though, as a TWA bird landed without the nosegear. It was repaired and put back in service fairly quickly.

T.J.
The last of the famous international playboys
 
bells
Posts: 155
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:05 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:02 pm

I think the BA 777 involved in the refuelling fire at Denver was written off.

Am I wrong?
 
Big777jet
Posts: 2682
Joined: Mon May 01, 2000 10:52 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:16 pm

I checked aircraft census information. The British Airways 777-236ER MSN 28840 of G-VIIK was damaged wing on Sept 6th 2001. I don't know if they repaired to return in service. Can anyone tell me if you saw still active G-VIIK somewhere today?

Thanks,

Big777jet






 
tsentsan
Posts: 1921
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:48 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:31 pm

If the date and rego is correct


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Aaron David Mandolesi



Then the aircraft is back in service.
NO URLS in signature
 
astrojet
Posts: 553
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2000 9:11 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:34 pm

If I´m not wrong the Mercure fleet had no accidents.
 
PUnmuth@VIE
Posts: 3119
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2000 9:31 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 2:53 pm

The Fairchild Dornier 728 ??  Big thumbs up
Peter
-
 
Midex717
Posts: 133
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 1:52 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:53 pm

The 328 Jet has never had a accident or I have never heard of airline to have a accident.

Tim
 
LMP737
Posts: 4859
Joined: Wed May 08, 2002 4:06 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 4:08 pm

No 737NG has been involved in an accident.
Never take financial advice from co-workers.
 
L-188
Posts: 29881
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 1999 11:27 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Mon Jul 08, 2002 4:38 pm

The Funk:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Peter Vercruijsse



And this is probably the aircraft type with the longest type record.

I don't belive that any AD where ever issued on the airframe either.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
 
d-aiqc
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:15 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was ... - A330?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:03 pm

What happend to the A-330, that was lost in test?
thnx
d-aiqc
 
ra-85154
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:16 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:25 pm

I am not sure if versions are ok, but off all the Boeing's 747 I can not think of a hull loss or accident involving a Boeing 747SP?
 
brons2
Posts: 2462
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2001 1:02 pm

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:35 pm

Date: 30 JUN 1994
Time: 17.41
Type: Airbus A.330-321
Operator: Airbus Industrie
Registration: F-WWKH
C/n: 042
Year built: 1993
Total airframe hrs: 360 hours
Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney PW4164
Crew: 3 fatalities / 3 on board
Passengers: 4 fatalities / 4 on board
Total: 7 fatalities / 7 on board
Location: Toulouse-Blagnac Airport (TLS) (France)
Phase: Take-off
Nature: Test
Departure airport: Toulouse-Blagnac Airport (TLS)
Destination airport: Toulouse-Blagnac Airport (TLS)
Flightnumber: 129
Remarks:
The test flight was part of the preparation required for the certification of the Pratt & Whitney equipped Airbus A.330 autopilot to Cat. III standards (approach and go-around under very bad visibility conditions). The first part of the test flight was completed successfully when the aircraft landed on runway 15L. A 180deg turn was made for a runway 33R takeoff. The second takeoff was to be performed under conditions similar to those of the first takeoff. For this test however, the autopilot would incorporate the modification under study (Spatiaal with Bubble in 3972 state). The aircraft weighed 147,700kg and a centre of gravity of 42%. The takeoff was performed by the co-pilot with TOGA (takeoff Go Around) power, instead of Flex 49 (a lower power setting). Rotation was positive and pitch input was stopped when the attitude changed from 12deg to 18deg nose-up. Within 5 seconds after takeoff several attempts were to engage the autopilot were unsuccessful. After it was engaged, activation was delayed by 2 sec because the 1st officer was exerting a slight nose down input on the side stick. The aircraft, still trimmed at 2.2deg nose-up pitched up to reach 29deg and the speed had decreased to 145kts. The captain meanwhile reduced thrust on the no.1 engine to idle and cut off the hydraulic system in accordance with the flight test order. Immediately after it activated, the autopilot switched to altitude acquisition mode (altitude had been set at 2000ft on the previous flight phase). This caused the pitch attitude to increase to 32deg in an attempt to reach 2000ft. The speed decreased further to 100kts (minimum control speed=118ts!). Roll control was lost and the captain reduced no.2 engine thrust to idle to recover symmetry on the roll axis. Bank and pitch attitudes had reached 112deg left and -43deg resp. before the pilot managed to regain control. It was however too late to avoid ground impact at a pitch attitude of around -15deg. PROBABLE CAUSES: "At the present stage of its work, the commission estimates that the accident can be explained by a combination of several factors none of which, taken separately, would have led to an accident. The initial causes are primarily related to the type of the test and its execution by the crew during the last takeoff: 1) choice of maximum power (TOGA) instead of Flex 49; 2) very aft CG for the last takeoff; 3} trim set in the takeoff range, but in too high a nose-up position; 4) selected altitude of 2000ft; 5) imprecise and late definition of the test to be conducted and the tasks to be performed by the captain and first officer, respectively; 6) positive and very rapid rotation executed by the first officer; 7) the captain was busy with the test operations to be performed immediately after take off (engagement of the autopilot, reduce thrust on the engine and cut off the blue hydraulic system) which temporarily placed him outside the control loop; 8) in addition the absence of pitch attitude protection in the autopilot altitude acquisition mode played a significant role. The following is also contributed to the accident: 1) The inability of the crew to identify the mode in which the autopilot was placed; 2) the confidence of the crew in the expected reactions of the aircraft; 3) the late reaction from the flight test engineer when faced with a potentially hazardous change in parameters (speed in particular); 4) the time taken by the captain to react to an abnormal situation."

Source: (also check out sources used for every accident)
S183 + S184; FI 10-16.8.94(6); AW&ST 11.07.94(26-27) + 3.4.95(72-73) + 10.4.95(60) + 17.04.95(44-45) + 15.05,95(58-59) + 22.05.95(54,56) + 29.05.95(69-70); TT + Ceefax; ASW 23.01.95(4)
Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
 
Vulindlela
Posts: 451
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 10:34 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:22 pm

I saw BA777 G-VIIK at ATL 2 weeks ago, so it is still flying Big grin
"If you take everything I've accomplished in my entire life and condense it down into 1 day, it looks decent!"
 
Guest

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:52 pm

Aeroflot lost an IL-86 a few months back in Dubai. No injuries, but the pilots evidently forgot to lower the landing gear.

They didn't exactly lose it. A decision was made by Aeroflot headquarters that the cost of salvaging the aircraft didn't warrant the expense, especially seeing as they were retiring the aircraft from their fleet in the near future.

Not an accident, but an incident.
 
airsicknessbag
Posts: 4626
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2000 2:45 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:11 pm

I personally count families, not single types. So, on my "no write off"-list, 717, 753, 764, 737NG, 319, 321 don´t show up because "family members" were written off. But that´s of course a matter of personal preference.

The majority of airliner types with spotless records were very scarcely built:

Mercure - 12
Tu 234 - 2
Tu 334 - 1
IL 96 - 16
Tu 204 - 36
So I guess the 777 with roughly 400 built is the only airliner which is around in substantial numbers without having been written off so far.

Other types mentioned in this thread:
IL 86 - in addition to the already listed accident in Dubai last September, another one was destroyed by a crashing 737 in Delhi in 1994.

747SP - a LAM had an uncontained engine failure in 1998 which resulted in a successful emergency landing but caused the plane to be damaged beyond repair.

Another interesting bit of information: there were no fatal crashes of a 737-100. There was only one economical write off after a hard landing of a COPA in 1993 in Panama City.

Daniel Smile

 
Arsenal@LHR
Posts: 7510
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:55 am

RE: Wich Aircraft Was Never Involved In An Accident?

Tue Jul 09, 2002 11:28 pm

Add the A340 to the list, one AF A340 was destroyed by fire, and an Sri Lankan was damaged by tamil tigers. But no accidents in commercial service.
In Arsene we trust!!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: aravinda, Baidu [Spider], briguychau, bw50505, CLEguy, CrackInspector, CX747, Google Adsense [Bot], jlbmedia, luisjumper, mercure1, miaskies, MIflyer12, mstx44, mugsy519, OslPhlWasChi, par13del, Rdeggendorfer, rsanzo, Seabear, smokeybandit, timberwolf24, travisnc, Yahoo [Bot], Ytraveller and 283 guests