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AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 12:24 am

I hear AirTran is going to Donate a DC-9 to the Virginia Air and Space Museum which will open in 2003. The Ship will be 903 which is the exact one I flew on on July 28, 1999. It is sad to see her go, but she will be great in permanent collection. What is everyone else's views on this. I am definetely going to see it myself. You can find the story by going to AirTran's Website, and going to ABOUT US, and then click on PRESS RELEASE ARCHIVES
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:16 am

Will it be in AirTran colors?
Or will it be in colors of original operator?
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:18 am

Well that's a nice gesture on the part of AirTran. Of course their generosity could be thinly veiled as a tax write off or free advertising. Especially if the plane is left in AirTran colors.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:22 am

I imagine it will have everything AIRTRAN in it. As AirTran is Donating it. Not Delta.
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:31 am

Does anybody know the registration of this bird that is being donated?



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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:45 am

Ship 903 as already said... N803AT (Was N903VJ) Sister Ship to N904VJ
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:54 am

904 was the one that crashed in the everglades correct?
Also, how fast are the DC-9s going these days? With all these new routes opening up this year aren't the majority of 717 deliviries being used to expand the schedule rather than replace the DC-9s?
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:08 am

Hopefully they'll repaint her in Critter Blue. It would be a great tribute to an airline and it's people who were unfairly tarnished by greedy lawyers and sensationalist media.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:11 am


Who was the original operator of the aircraft?

 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:44 am

DC-9-32
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:52 am

I think that this aircraft, despite being donated by AirTran, should go into the museum in Delta livery since they were the original operator. Additionally, with Delta being the better airline and everything, it will have much more attraction value.
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:52 am

I have many memories of working with ship 903 when I was a ramp rat in college. She was 904s sister ship, one late night i was sitting in her bin, and we had an imbound flight from MIA, in the front bin was a box of comat, and aircraft tires, just like ship 904 carried. it was a very haunting experience. My self and my family took many of rides on her, airtran is my past and i have moved on but I am glad I will be able to take my future children to see a ship that I worked with as a young kid
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:03 am

It sounds fair to me that the airline which donates decomissioned aircraft gets some recognition from the Museum and visiting public.

In this case, that means the aircraft keeps AirTran colors, if the donor asks so. Delta as well as all operators of the ship (if there have been other than named two), should be mentioned as well, as the part of the ship's life; but the special honor goes to the one who has dedicated the ship to the museum (and not for scrap).
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:13 am

Maybe they'll break it up into itty-bitty pieces painted in the old Valujet colors...

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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:16 am

The only reason that they would paint it in Delta colors and not Air Tran would be if Delta payed the museum a lot of money to have it done. Delta sold that plane a long time ago and already got its money for it. Air Tran is the airline that's giving the donation.

Anyways, this new air and space museum sounds really cool. Now is going to replace the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum, or will it just be a place to exhibit things too big to take to the Mall in Washington, or does this museum have nothing to do with the Smithsonian? Does anyone know what other exhibits will be in there?

The Air Tran DC-9 sounds a lot like when United donated one of its 727-22's to Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. Now that's a cool exhibit if you haven't been there. They pretty much cut the plane in half and you can walk through it. It explains the science behind flight and the operations of a commercial airliner. In fact every so often the plane goes through a "flight" where the flaps and landing gear and other movable parts are used to demonstrate how they are used in the same order they would be in a real flight. I wonder if they'll do something similar to this DC-9.

I can't wait till that museum's done! I'll definitely have to stop by the next time in Washington (granted that time is after the museum's complete!)
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:31 am

I have seen the plans for the new museum. I heard that they are planning to build a fake control tower a few stories tall with some mock up ATC equipment in it and it will have a view of the IAD airfield. (part of it anyway, the museum is going to be built right next to Dulles Airport)It is going to be several times larger than the present Smithsonian, but it is not going to replace it. The current Smithsonian is still going to be around, they just don't have enough room in it for all the stuff they have.

And yes the DC9 should be painted in Air Trans colors.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:44 am

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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:54 am

This DC9 will not be going to the new complex at Dulles. The museum in the story has nothing to do with the Smithsonian.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:38 am

I must say this is a great experience... The DC9 will go as a whole to the museum painted in AirTran Colors. They will separate some pieces so you can see the cockpit, and cabin. It is all going to be AirTran. I do not want to hear it as going in as DELTA colors. That would be a big disgrace. Valujet sounds like a good idea. Paint half in AirTran colors, and Half in ValuJet colors
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Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:59 am

The first AirTran plane I flew on, PHL-ATL.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:23 am

The Second AirTran plane I flew on. The First was N830AT
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 8:52 am

Valujet sounds like a good idea.

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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 12:21 pm

Seriously, why would anyone want to remember Valujet, other than as a poster child for how NOT to operate an airline?

I remember (this was after they'd gone to AirTran) some bozo captain one day took off from ATL and ran into massive hail that obliterated the windscreen and damaged the nose and leading edges, and they made it back safely. People were talking about how "brave" he was.

My good friend was an EMB-120 Captain at the time for ASA, and he later told me that no one else (including himself) was willing to launch because of the weather at that time, and they were stunned when the DC-9 headed out to take off.

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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:35 pm

Hope it is in AirTran colors and not of ValueJet (the name has a stigma to it.)

 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:13 pm

The DC9 will go as a whole to the museum painted in AirTran Colors. They will separate some pieces so you can see the cockpit, and cabin. It is all going to be AirTran. I do not want to hear it as going in as DELTA colors. That would be a big disgrace.

I wonder how many parts will be removed before it's put on static display, bacause there's ex-Delta parts all over those 9s. Peer inside the avionics bay or crack open the cockpit overhead panel, half of the components, boxes and insturments have tags that say "Property of Delta Air Lines" or "Property of SAS" and "Property of Northwest Airlines".

Not to mention that if you look carefully around the inside of the aft cargo door frame and aft structure, you'll see the tell-tale baby blue valujet paint showing through worn areas of the Airtran green.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:40 pm

What ever museum it goes to its great news. Hope one day to see it !!
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Thu Jul 11, 2002 2:24 am

Heck, one of their DC-9s has a sticker on the inner cargo door from it's previous operator, British Midland.
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:10 am

you remember that SRBmod... another one had green curtains on the door from alitalia. and i remember alot of them had turkish writting in the potable water door from the THY birds.. the trash cans on the delta birds had DELTA DC-8 and DC-9 stenciled on them
 
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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:46 am

It's good to see another airliner being preserved at a museum, like the United 727 mentioned above. Where in VA is the museum being built? There's an aviation museum now in Hampton, isn't there? If I get to the area I'd love to have a look at the plane.

And yes, it should be painted in AirTran colors. As for "Delta being the better airline and all.." HA! Tell that to folks in Rochester, where Delta canceled service for two weeks on a few days notice in 2000. The airport had warned the airlines a year in advance about runway construction. Everyone else but Delta managed to schedule smaller planes for two weeks. Not Delta-they dumped thousands of unsuspecting pax onto the other airlines! "Delta-we love to screw medium-size markets and it shows."

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RE: AirTran Airways Donates DC-9 To Museum

Fri Jul 12, 2002 5:55 am

I still cannot wait to see it. I plan on flying on an AirTran DC9 this fall or winter.

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