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Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:22 pm

I got a few of these passes for my use from someone in my family.. How do I use these? How do they work? Can someone give me the "low-down" on these suckers?
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:26 pm

Why don't you just ask the person in your family that gave them to you?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

A person thats to lazy to explain,  Big thumbs up
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:35 pm

You should get a flyer with your S4 ticket jacket giving you the info on how to use them and the Flightline.
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:37 pm

Hi,

First of all, make sure that the employee has signed them. If this is not the case, then they could be confiscated.

Next, decide where you would like to go and take them to a city ticket office if possible to "ticket' them. If not, you can also do this at the airport. Make sure that you are listed on the flights about a week out before departure. There is a number that you can call to list for the flight. Also, the employee can do it very easily online.

Check the loads either by calling the VRU line or by calling the employee. They should be able to give you an idea of what to expect. If you are trying to go to Hawaii or Europe in the summer, make sure that you have enough money to buy a ticket back home if necessary. Hundreds of people can get bumped in a day during busy times. Be very flexible. Travel on off peak hours and in the middle of the week will likely advance your cause.

Most important of all, remind the people that are travelling with you that these are for standby only and will not gaurantee a seat. If you are assigned a seat, always take what they give you. Check with the employee for the dress codes for first and coach class. This will prove to be extremely important later. Never ever argue with the ticket agent or the gate agent, even if there is an obvious problem. If you feel like they have done something wrong, make a mental note of the person(s), the location, and give the details to the employee. There have been a lot of problems lately with people raising a scene with buddy passes over seating, the dress code, or other issues. All too often, the employee has been reprimanded or even worse, had their benefits suspended. I trust you will do OK though. Getting an idea of the loads and alternate schedules for backup plans will help you a lot. Enjoy the trip!
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:45 pm

I am glad this came up because I was talking about this with a friend of mine and his friend works for United and we were thinking about taking a weekend get away. I havent talked with his friend yet, but are the seats then free if the employee has these passes? Do I have to pay the airport taxes or other fees? We were thinking about leaving like late Fri afternoon and getting back late Sun night. At those times are there good odds that by doing standby we would get seats. I know a lot depends on the location, but it would probobly be Florida or California or Vegas where I would imagine they have a lot of seats. Any ideas esp if it costs my anything?
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 2:21 pm

You probably should have the employee list you; typing in your names into the VRU is a REAL pain in the rear.
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:14 pm

Anyone have any insight on what I talked about a couple of posts ago? This is really important to me as I dont want to get stuck at some airport. Thanks
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 1:29 am

Unless Delta has changed the buddy pass policy since late 2000, all buddy passes (and travel companion and parents and children as well) are charged at a yield rate (I can't remember the cents per mile for each different category). An average yield fare price for a domestic flight is between $25-75 round trip, and the average International yield fare is around $150-200 RT. And it doesn't matter which class you book for either, same price either class. As for when you do finally travel, do it through a CTO, and also get a schedule book in advance, and keep it with you when you fly. Your best bets are to fly on the largest aircraft they fly on your routing, thereby lessening the possiblity of getting bumped; if you have to fly on a peak travel day, catch the earliest flight you can, that way, if you do get bumped, there will be other flights that day you can be put on stand by for.
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 3:56 am

The "lazy" family member that signed them is a retired FA with 30 years service. They were kinda sketchy with the details.. Detroit has no Delta CTO.. Can I do this at the airport?
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:21 am

Read the second sentence of my second paragraph.
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:33 am

I havent talked with his friend yet, but are the seats then free if the employee has these passes? Do I have to pay the airport taxes or other fees?

They aren't free, fees are involved. My mom used a buddy pass last year to go to New York; cost around $100 RT.

We were thinking about leaving like late Fri afternoon and getting back late Sun night. At those times are there good odds that by doing standby we would get seats. I know a lot depends on the location, but it would probobly be Florida or California or Vegas where I would imagine they have a lot of seats.

The times you describe are the WORST for standby travel. Expect to get bumped and stuck. You're traveling at the bottom of the todem pole (After the flight might be 20% overbooked anyway and confirmed pax are accomodated, revenue standbys are accomodated, employees [and their parents, spouses, kids, etc.] are accomodated, then just maybe, there might be a seat for you).

Florida, being a vacation capital of the world, is usually jam-packed with tourists.
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 6:23 am

Personally, traveling to Las Vegas or Florida on a friday and trying to return on a sunday is bad news.

Summertime is one of the worst times to non-rev because the flights are often oversold, especially to popular vacation spots like LAS and Florida.

I'd suggest looking at leaving on a thursday afternoon and planning to return saturday morning or monday sometime.

I'm an employee and even when I travel using a priority S-2 (buddy passes are S-4's), I spend plenty of time sweating until (if?) they call my name.

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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 9:05 am

The s4 passes work great on the off peak season. Most try to travel when it is high season to places that are totally booked and end up with a frustrating and expensive experience. Remember the dress code. It is enforced.
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 9:24 am

Seriously, find out the fares for where you are looking to travel on the buddy pass and then find out if there is any special deals to the same location. I say this because my son's former fiance used to travel on one of my husbands' S-4's, then for some reason there was a low fare to Orlando. It was just a very few $ more than the buddy pass and she was able to make a reservation and not worry about standing by.

When 777-200 said "lazy" in his comments, to me it looked like he was referring to himself, not your relative. So don't feel insulted.

As to the dress code, on Delta's site for employees, it states that if you want to have a chance to be upgraded to F/C or Business Elite, you must not have on sneakers of any kind, no jeans, and a shirt with a collar and the shirt must be tucked in. The pants recommended are of a "dockers" style. Kind of "preppy" if you know what I mean. Coat and ties are no longer needed for F/C. You can use the "kiosk" to check in BTW. If you don't know where that is, or how to use it, by all means go to one of the "Red Coats" and ask them for help. Just tell them you have never used it and don't want to make a mistake. I have yet to run into one of them that won't help someone your age. Anyway, have a really good time where you do go!!!
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:50 pm

I just wanted to say thanks for all of the feedback. Your thoughts have definately given me something to think about and I now realize that it isnt as cut and dry as I thought it to be.
 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:54 pm

I tried using one of the kiosks before, and it didn't work. I was told by the red-coat that you need a pass card, as a credit card/skymiles card won't cut it when your doing NRSA stuff.

 
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 1:15 pm

And since it was my thread originally, I would like to say thanks for all your help as well.. I heard that nowadays you fly for 3.6 cents a mile on S4s.
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 1:33 pm

Man a S4, that's awful for that itenerary!! At least a S3 would probably guarantee that you get on. For all those lucky Delta employees and their family (ME) those S1R's come in VERY HANDY!!!  Big grin
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:03 pm

Seriously, find out the fares for where you are looking to travel on the buddy pass and then find out if there is any special deals to the same location. I say this because my son's former fiance used to travel on one of my husbands' S-4's, then for some reason there was a low fare to Orlando. It was just a very few $ more than the buddy pass and she was able to make a reservation and not worry about standing by.

Along with what Skyhawk said, I bought a ROUND TRIP confirmed ticket on Southwest from San Antonio to Orlando which was $90. The Delta yield fare was around $75 (plus WN was non-stop). So yes, look for these specials and get booked as a confirmed customer, as some agents really cop an attitude with buddy pass riders.
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RE: Delta "Buddy" Passes (S4 Priority)

Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:07 pm

I tried using one of the kiosks before, and it didn't work. I was told by the red-coat that you need a pass card, as a credit card/skymiles card won't cut it when your doing NRSA stuff.

Correct. The kiosks are not yet set up to process S4s as the S4 is referenced by PPN rather than by passenger name - hence the need for a passcard or ID with that number encoded.
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