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How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 3:37 pm

Just wondering guys as SQ's newest 744 9V-SPQ was in AKL today and I thought that the aircraft with Wiseman installed were used on LHR and SYD routes, or is there now enough aircraft with it installed to operate other routes?

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 5:07 pm

Wisemen on SQ? I am sure you are referring to a system of some sort, but it it would appear that wisemen don't travel on SQ!!
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 5:16 pm

Yes it's called Wiseman, not Wisemen.

Anyway Cx flyboy what you posted was off topic and a rather cheap shot.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:13 pm

I thought it was rather funny. Good to have humour in these forums.

The question remains. What 744's have the new system installed? I am flying on 2 747-400's with SQ this thursday From Hong Kong Via Singapore to London.

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:14 pm

I find it most irregular that the people from Hong Kong who have no idea about SIA matters regularly post information reflecting their knowledge in such posts.

WISEMEN / Matsushita Avionics 3000 is being progressively installed on Megatop 747s and all Jubilee 777s.

However, information on what aircraft actually have this feature is sketchy. 9V-SPK and 9V-SVA can give you more information as they often have a shortlist of aircraft.

All 777-200ER (9V-(SVA to SVH)) have WISEMEN, but they don't go to New Zealand as far as I know.
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:27 pm

I find it highly irregular that a teenager could have an obsession to the extent that you do, and although you are slowly improving, you obsession causes you to search out anything bad about other airlines to improve the image of your obsession.

I admit, I don't have a first clue what Wiseman is. I admit it. Why is that irregular? Surely if someone asks questions, or mentions that they don't know something, it is blindingly obvious that they know little about that matter, otherwise they wouldn't be asking would they?, so of course what is reflected is that that person does not know. Logical really, and not very irregular at all.

So, what is Wiseman then?
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wisemen Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:34 pm

Flyboy: Do not try and hide under a veil of curiosity when you post comments like "but it it would appear that wisemen don't travel on SQ!!"

For your information, there is no such system called Wiseman.
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:37 pm

I am genuinely curious. If you don't want to tell me, then fine. Perhaps another forum member will. On a side note, you really do not appear to have a sense of humour at all, do you.

If Wiseman is not a system, tell me what it is.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:38 pm

WISEMEN / Matsushita Avionics 3000 is being progressively installed on Megatop 747s and all Jubilee 777s.

I find it highly irregular that somebody, even an obsessive-compulsive person such as yourself, insists on referring to aircraft types by their rather stupid corporate names assigned to them by some freak in a cubicle somewhere in Singapore. You really are as strange as you seem.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:44 pm

Wiseman is SQ's Audio Video On Demand system (AVOD) that lets you pause movies, etc.

BTW what if Singapore_Air is the Chief Executive Officer of Singapore Airlines Limited? Big grin  Big grin
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:47 pm

If he was the CEO of SQ, that is more of a reason not to fly SQ, and would immediately put off many members from going anywhere near an SQ aircraft!!
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 6:55 pm

I flew 9V-SPP SQ030 TPE-LAX in Jan 2002 in J, and it did NOT have Wisemen installed, just the normal Krisworld.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:54 pm

Friend of mine flew CDG-SIN on 9V-SPQ and he said it was crap. Wiseman AVOD not installed.
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:59 pm

"Wise men say only fools rush in........................"
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:56 pm

What the hell is wrong with you all? Are you all completely deranged one-eyed fools? Goodness gracious me! Why the hell must you consistently taunt and lower Singapore_Air in your every comment? Why is it ok for you, cx flyboy, to again and again market all of CX’s high points and capitalise on SQ’s bad? Wake up man! If you hate what Singapore_Air says, then you’re just as bad so look at yourself in the mirror…if that is possible. We all know Singapore_Air is passionate about his SIA and yes, of course I realise how many of you find it difficult to comprehend such loyalty but if he happened to be passionate about your beloved CX then I’m sure you’d have no qualms whatsoever and would be the first to encourage. You can’t deny that Singapore_Air certainly does provide huge amounts of often valuable industry info which most of us find pretty bloody useful. But alas, he can never say the right thing. Its ridiculous and too many of you react like you should be in kindergarten.

Now that I’ve had my little bitch, WISEMEN is installed on a fair few of SQ’s 744s flying the long-haul routes, especially to Europe. But as we all know, anything SQ decides to implement takes about as the average human’s lifecycle before completed, only to start again with something new. Lots of the 777s have it. From memory, SRJ, SRK, SRL, SYF, SYG, SVA-SVG have it. Haven’t tried it yet but will look forward to doing so…provided that all the technical niggles have been sorted.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:57 pm

9V-SVE: Thanks (I think). Wisemen, not Wiseman!
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:41 pm

Why does all that not surprise me? You know, I never used to go on and on about CX. In fact I used to be the first to critisize them. Perhaps you do not remember. Just like HKGSpotter now is a big airbus supporter because of all the Boeing supporters who unjustifyably insult Airbus all the time, it has affected me because certain members used to deliberately find bad news about CX and good news about SQ. These certain members are improving, but the damage is done I am afraid. If you do not like it, then I am truly sorry. When I see praise and praise about something that I see faults in, I like to highlight the issue. I don't think there is anything wrong with that....but then, with a username like yours I guess there is bias there anyway, so perhaps I should save my breath.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:13 am

Cx flyboy, although the damage is done, as a forum member I'd really like to see you and Hkgspotter be able to stop this. I'm sure that if you set a good example for everyone else here, Singapore_Air will most certainly not post biases towards SQ and against all other airlines. In any case, if both parties continue to provoke each other with silly actions like these, it doesn't do anything to help the case and only makes it even worse.

So in concluding, I really really would like to see all this childish bickering come to an end so that we can concentrate on more fruitful discussions.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:14 am

You mean you're not having fun?!
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:17 am

Having fun? Maybe initially yes, watching the both of you bicker is very entertaining but it's turning out to be very personal and vengeful. And I think it does nothing to help the situation. If something has to be stopped, one party has to be the first to take action. Singapore_Air has toned down on his anti-"all other airlines" nonsense although I admit that I do find one or two threads from him a little annoying. I hope that you could be the first person to initiate a stop to this. Hopefully, everyone will follow after that.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:28 am

guys... this sort of behaviour is just disgraceful! let's just answer the question. And if there's the desire to be funny, a small amount of wit would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I've flown 9V-SPP recently, and no, it didn't hve AVOD.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:46 am

Cx flyboy, you’re very entertaining!

Pity about what it does to your credibility. Let me know when you're flying so I can switch to alternatives China Airlines perhaps.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:47 am

Singapore777,

Very mature of you to suggest that. If I had read this before I saw you guys at the airport this afternoon, I would have come over to pat you on the back. Unfortunately, you cannot expect others to grow up if they do not wish to. That's life. Sad but true.

The old saying "if you can't beat them, join them" is just so true. Many people succumb to this, as can be seen in the case of cx_fly_boy joining the ranks of Hkgspotter1 in their constant bickering with S_air. Many others took the easy way out by joining in the bickering instead of being objective and concentrating on the topic at hand. There are others, who are just anti-establishment, and will try to be rebellious and fine tune their opinions just so that they are seen to be different. These are the attention seekers. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them.

Fortunately I still find reading the constant bickering between the 2 HKG members and a particular British member entertaining, so I am not too affected by all the junk comments they post. I simply love to see them making a fool of themselves on the www.

"Wise men say only fools rush in........................"

Hmmm....could that be the reason why CX installed the flatbeds in J class before SQ did?  Laugh out loud

No offence Cx-fly-boy, I just couldn't resist that one.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:57 am

Flyboy:
Oh before I forget (getting old), I just love airliners, I am not fanatically loyal to any airline. My username has nothing to do with my orientation towards SQ. I wanted cx_fly_boy initially, but you grabbed it before I did.  Laugh out loud
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 3:14 am

Well I think that the maturity of CX_Flyboy isn't too surprising!

The way and his fellow friends have been acting over recent months, it only goes to discredit them and as we have nothing to lose by such thing, I see no reason for letting them demean themselves.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 7:06 am

It is hardly a lynching offense to not know what Wisemen is.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:47 am

Geez, there's a severe level of seriousness here isn't there? If you all so wish, I shall tone it down, but please note that I have not really been the one to find bad things about SQ to post, then only post good things about CX. Do a search of all my topics and you will realise this.

As I have mentionned before, I do have a problem when an airline is perceived to be the bees knees and no-one can stop praising them, when in actual fact, they have some serious problems. I do not wish to ignore them and I will continue to highlight them until either the day they ceast to exist, or the day people realise the problems. My opinion about SQ and SQ-boy does not mean that I am any less believeable when posting about Cathay, my personal experiences flying, or in answering questions about the technicalities of the aircraft I fly. If you choose to question what I say, then that's your choice to do so.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:49 am

So nobody know's what exact aircraft are fitted??
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 10:50 am

"So in concluding, I really really would like to see all this childish bickering come to an end so that we can concentrate on more fruitful discussions."

Oh no! What about my daily soap opera?????????

But seriously, Cx_flyboy and Hkgspotter1, why don't you guys just chill! If you claim to be the mature people you are, why don't you two just let Singapore_Air ramble on and on about his beloved SQ?

The last time I checked all the posts, nobody is praising Singapore_Air about his loyalty to SQ! People just seem to treat his posts as transparent! Do you see the SQ fans praising Singapore_Air? I don't think so........

Just ignore his posts, and if you do want to voice your opinion, just do it, without referring to Singapore_Air. Like I said, just pretend he's not here.......

Haha, I'm really wondering if Singapore_Air is the CEO of SQ! He fits the profile!
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 11:19 am

Pretty sure SPN-SPQ all have it. The only other certainty is SMM coz its got the Spacebeds alike SPQ so perhaps AKL has gone from the rustbucket 744s to the ritzy Spacebed equipped ones. I'd imagine around half the fleet has them but to be honest, I haven't the faintest idea.
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:17 pm

I don't object Cx_flyboy of constantly raising issues, I mean they should be raised and realised. I think what everyone or rather, most of us would like to see is the useless comments between you 2 and Singapore-air talking the hell out of each other. I mean everyone is entitled to his or her own views too and there's no need to 'kill' someone over his/her opinion on your favourite airline! JUst let it be!

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:27 pm

Look back on almost all of the SQ threads, it ends in the most undesirable way without getting proper views and answers after 2 or 3 threads down...

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:28 pm

Erm Colin, why don't you just leave Singapore_Air alone and treat him as invisible? I'm honestly not having fun when we can all be chatting about something better than S_Air vs HKGspotter/CX flyboy.

Do you ever see SIA fans praising S_Air? No. Actually, we are quite sick of S_Air. You should have been at SIN yesterday with me, Singapore 777, Mr.BA, 9V-SVC, Carmy and Docpepz. We were all making fun of a certain someone(no names).

Anyway back to the topic:

SPQ has Spacebeds, so it must have WISEMEN. Same for SMM. BTW CX flyboy, WISEMEN is a name for SIA's AVoD system.

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:43 pm

OK CX I suddenly realised that you don't like your name displayed, so I'm sorry for any disturbance caused. I'm terribly sorry.

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:37 pm

So, many of the forumers here would love to tell us how SQ isnt as good as it is. This has happened oh so many times. Fair I suppose.

As for me, I would love to tell you of my joys of discovering Wisemen in ECONOMY on my flight LHR-SIN 15 Jun SQ317. What a big surprise! Imagine now..on a 12 hr flight..and I can choose to watch what I want, at the time I want..from a gazillion channels! (Which is what I did..I think I watched the same comedy 'Living with Lydia' like 5-6 times). It sure helps the time fly!

I'm really surprised how many of the forumers(who i wonder if they flew SQ) are enthusiastic to mention that inflight service is going down. From my frequent up and down trips LHR-SIN 3 times a year, I can only say they seem to be improving! Wisemen's GREAT! One reason u must consider SQ .

 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:46 pm

Also, I had fun about a week ago in chat joking about two people (no names).  Big thumbs up I can tell you one thing, they're both big SQ fans  Big grin
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:48 pm

747-fan,

I second that! Airlines should consider providing AVOD for Y class pax instead of just the P and J pax. I flew to ORD on SQ and enjoyed the AVOD (wisemen) onboard. It was certainly better than waiting for each cycle to start.

Can anyone tell which other carrier has AVOD in Y class?
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:57 pm

ZX Lee, your comments are UNAPPRECIATED.

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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 5:03 pm

I assume since the Wisemen system is more complex in terms of AVOD etc. than other airlines' programming systems, it must take up more space? Is this true?
 
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RE: How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?

Sun Jul 21, 2002 6:02 pm

No wonder this forum is getting boring, boring, boring.

Especially as a Chinese who lives in Hong kong for most of the time but travel SQ most of the time....sigh...

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