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EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:00 am

Just read Airways magazines excellent article on EAL of Europe.

The article was great, getting into every A/C EAL has dabbled with. Then it mentions that EAL is considering the 717.

Any thoughts on this possibility?
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Ndebele
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:11 am

Hmmm, keep in mind that they just replaced their BAC1-11s with B737-200(!). I don't think that they will buy any new aircraft, maybe in about five years they might replace the 732s with 733s or maybe 735s, and then in 10 or 15 years they might buy second-hand 717s.

The only possibility I see for EAL to buy 717s now: Boeing must offer them for cheap. I mean really cheap. But they won't.
 
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:14 am

I could see them leasing those that Boeing has out in the desert, but they will have to get something that doesn't have to be hushkitted, because the 732 will be banned in Europe in a few years, just like the BAC 1-11.
 
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:16 am

I just have to agree with you guys. Though I hate to....

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Crosswind
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:31 am

European Aviation Air Charter (EAAC) have carved their niche by purchasing quality used aircraft from major airlines at bargain prices, most notably;

BAC1-11s from British Airways
B737-200s from Sabena
B747-200s from British Airways

Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?

The B717 has far higher aquistion costs than the B737-200s EAAC already has, but carries fewer passengers and has a shorter range. You would save money on fuel and maintenance - but the initial costs of a B717 fleet would be high, plus they would make the already paid for B737-200 fleet redundant, and EAAC would have to try and re-market these relatively old aircraft for a lot less than they are worth to EAAC, due to the state of the used aircraft market.

The only rumours I've heard about future fleet moves for EAAC have been to add second-hand B737-300s to supplement and eventually replace the B737-200s. These aircraft would increase range and capacity, while cutting fuel and maintenance - and would cost a lot less than a similar number of B717s.

Just glad I managed to get a flight on an EAAC BAC1-11 (MAN-VCE-PSA-MAN)while they were still in frontline service in 1996!

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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 4:26 am

Crosswind wrote:

Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?

"Why" is the question Airways posed as well. The answer was that EAL has always been unpredictable with their A/C and who knows what decision they'll make for the future.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Good points.

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englandair
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Wed Jul 24, 2002 4:38 am

I was going to comment on EAF's unpredictability too. How many people knew they were going to buy 6 B747s before they suprised us?!
 
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Thu Jul 25, 2002 12:25 pm

Why do this airline have like 8 different names?
 
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:02 pm

Would be cool, if they get the 717....
 
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RE: EAL To Possibly Buy 717s

Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:24 am

Twaneedsnohelp,
They don't have 8 names!

The airline is;
European Aviation Air Charter Ltd (EAAC)

They are owned by:
European Aviation Ltd (EAL)

Sometimes people get mixed up and refer to EAAC as EAL because the initials of the parent company are on the fin, its an AA/AMR sort of situation with the names...

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