airmale
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First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:09 am

CX are planning to start direct passenger service to Cebu, Philippines from a mainland city, is it Shanghai?

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EGGD
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:32 am

I thought Hong Kong was in China....... ?
 
airmale
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:52 am

Mainland China = excluding Hong Kong & Macau Smile
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agmyvr
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 8:24 am

Strange! There is quite a lot of rumours on CX lately, mostly involve mainland China and another country, the one I've heard in early Jul is YVR/SHA/HKG, of course I don't take it seriously for the time being, but in the future? no one knows
 
celestar
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Paci

Sat Jul 27, 2002 11:49 am

The only reason this rumor make sense is CX is trying to compete with Dragonair over TPE to HK to SHanghai route.
Millions of Taiwanese businessman hate to wait at the HK airport before taking off to cities in China. Dragonair, who is a new comer to this year Taiwan HK air-agreement, has a better edge. It now fly a A330 from TPE to HK (the plane sit for 30 mins and then take off to Shanghai). Draonair claim that cut 2 hours off the travel time. I think may be CX is trying to do the same thing with Philippines as the transit point. I am not sure but I just cannot believe what commercial value from Shanghai to Philippines has for CX.

 
airmale
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:22 pm

Im not certain its Shanghai, could be Guangzhou or Xiamen.
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GuyBetsy1
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:11 pm

CX has no traffic rights to fly from any Chinese city direct to another city in another country OTHER than HKG!
 
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:45 pm

Recently, there were several Chinese news reports said that Cathay Pacific Airways is really looking forward to opening routes to some well-developed cities in mainland China, but no-one mentioned anything about Cathay Pacific Airways will be flying any new routes between mainland China and another country.
 
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:47 pm

All I can say is : I had never thought of that could happen!

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airpearl
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sun Jul 28, 2002 8:13 pm

I think CX would make an excellent flag carrier for China.
Perhaps CX is only thinking ahead - having been on a number of CX flights of late and seeing the sheer numbers of Chinese pax who fly on them, I can imagine that CX management must surely be contemplating the unthinkable - that its future is in China too.
 
carnoc
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sun Jul 28, 2002 8:41 pm

Airpearl, I personally think that Cathay Pacific Airways has no way to become flag carrier in China in the future we can see now, but it is and will still be the flag carrier for Hong Kong (SAR), I say this because the Chinese government will not let Air China shut down 'for ever'.
 
babaero
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sun Jul 28, 2002 9:11 pm

From within..there are no plans of any such service.
 
carnoc
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:14 pm

According to today's Hong Kong (SAR) based Chinese newspaper -- Ta Kung Pao and Cathay Pacific Airways official web site, Cathay Pacific Airways introduces a new toll-free hotline for mainland Chinese passengers.

More info @ http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/aboutus/press/0,3845,31342-81831,00.html
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Mon Jul 29, 2002 10:35 pm

This was the RUMOUR that started from the Station Manager in Cebu. Even Justplanes is printing it !!
 
CXCPA
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:13 pm

I just know that CX want to operate direct flight between Hong Kong and the mainland China. I haven't heard that CX want to operate direct flight between China and the Philippine. But there are somebody such as the ex-head of Civil Aviation Dept, Hong Kong find some unreasonable reason against CX flying to the mainland China. That stupid guy said that CX is not a Chinese Airline becuase it is controlled by British! Only he can think that of stupid reasons... But CX is registered and based in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a city of China. So CX must a Chinese Airline! CX is controlled by foreigners because laws and the history of Hong Kong....
I think it need to take a long time to see CX flgihts to the mainland......
 
n949wp
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Tue Jul 30, 2002 5:10 pm

In the realm of international air services, CX is a "Hong Kong" airline, not a "Chinese" airline. Hong Kong negotiates and signs its own air services agreements (ASA) with foreign countries; so, if Cathay is not a "Hong Kong" airline, it will be cut off from whatever traffic rights is available from those ASA's.

Cathay has flown into mainland China before, with scheduled services to Shanghai. It was only dropped when they took a majority stake in Dragonair and KA took over the routes. It is no secret that CX now wants to re-establish service into the mainland, and the "direct" service that is being rumored might just be some same-flight-number-via-HKG deal, if and when China service does resume.

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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Tue Jul 30, 2002 5:37 pm

There was an article on a newpaper 2 days ago saying that CX will negotiate in starting services to China, he expressed that it was only the matter of time.

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hkgspotter1
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Tue Jul 30, 2002 7:30 pm

CXCPA,

Please think a little more before you reply.
 
airmale
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sat Aug 03, 2002 11:20 pm

CX have applied for permisiion to operate domestic flights to the mainland, they used to fly to Beijing 12 years ago.
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RE: First International From China For Cathay Pacific

Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:11 am

This is the complete Cathay Pacific flight schedule from September 1953

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