swaluvfa
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Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:27 am

Hey! Is Delta going to replace their MD-11s with 777s or is there another plane that they have in mind to replace it with?

SORRY! If this has been talked about on another post!  Smile
 
kaitak
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:39 am

I assume it is their long term plan, although obviously the financial situation of all US carriers affects their acquisition and fleet planning.

Ultimately, I suspect it is their intention to replace all MD11s with 777s.
 
DeltaBoy777
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:02 am

Don't look for the retirement of the MD-11 for quite a long time. So by then their might be a different plane they might want to use.
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woodsboy
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:03 am

Delta's plans for the MD11 were to phase them out by 2006-9 with 777s and 767-300/400s but when I read their latest annual report, they mention that the owned MD11s and MD90s still have 6-9 years left and I suspect the leased ones are in for longer. I imagine that the economics of retiring or replacing the MD11s and MD90s arent quite what they were a year ago. So, it looks like we will be seeing the MD-11s for another 10 years at least.
 
dutchjet
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:18 am

DL does plan to phase its MD11s out over time, but was not in the rush that AA and some other carriers were in to rid itself of the type.

DL still has some work-rule issues to finalize with its unions concerning its 777 operations.....that is why the MD11s still fly the Japan routes and flew the long TLV and Cairo routes until those routes were discontinued. You may remember that DL actually parked newly delieved 777s for a while, a few years ago, until a compromise was made with the pilots to get the planes into the air.

When will the 777 totally replace the MD11? Not sure, firstly, DL wants to make some money before placing another large order for the type. The other issue is with UPS, I had read that DL and UPS entered into an agreement for UPS to take the MD11s over time, later in the decade.......I am not sure of the status of that agreement at this point, a lot has happened since 9/11. Maybe a DL expert can help us with this issue.
 
B747-437B
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:21 am

TIMCO in GSO will be doing a modification on DL's MD-11s starting in 2003 where they will remove the #2 tailmounted engine and convert the MD-11s into 777s.
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dutchjet
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RE: Delta's MD-11s To 777s?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:22 am

Hey, 747-437B, you are in "sharp" mood this evening.....take care!