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What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:14 pm

Hi Everyone:

Im a firm believer of "its not about what you get, its about how you get it." I've had flights that were beverage service flights and found them to be more enjoyable than flights with mulitple meal services.

For me, somethings that makes inflight service good are:
-free entertainment
-frequent water walks/coffee walks down the aisle
-full can of soda with out me asking
-friendly crew who takes time to talk to you, even if its only while they are working at your row
-a crew that pays attention to your needs. If you run out of a beverage, having them offer you another one is always nice.

So what do you think...what makes inflight service good? What makes it bad? Is having a 5 course meal on a 2 hour flight good service, or would having a simpler presentation and a more attenative crew be better?

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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:20 pm

I think a happy crew is essential; that's what I need on my flight...people who, from the expression on their faces, are obviously enjoying their job tremendously.

Two airlines stick out, and they couldn't be more different in the service they provide: Easyjet (who's crews seem to constantly be smiling) and Virgin, whose crews seem to love handing out boiled sweets before landing.

I reckon it's the crew you have that can make or break your flight experience.

Regards
 
englandair
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:06 pm

I aggree. It's the little things that make all the difference.
For example, as you said VS handing out sweets to suck on landing so your ears don't hurt & a smiling crew really gives a good impression.
Good customer service costs very little.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
englandair
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:08 pm

....and good manners! Saying please and thank you and addressing your customers with a Sir/Madam gives them a very positive impression of your company. It costs nothing, so it's a shame some cabin crews just don't bother.
 
saintsman
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:12 pm

"and Virgin, whose crews seem to love handing out boiled sweets before landing."

I've never flown Virgin, but I took that statement to mean that the flight's nearly over and that they will be glad to see the back of you. Please enlighten me.

FA's who appear to be genuinely enjoying their work usually makes the difference.
 
sdate747
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:16 pm

LAME:
$5 that American charges you to watch their crap movies in their noisy cabin. I think for every $5 they make that way they lose $100 in returning customer business.

Pouring a soda into that flimsy little cup when they know you have your eyes on the entire can

GOOD:
When your flight is delayed 2 hours because the brakes on the landing gear need fixing, and so the FAs make the hard drinks on the flight free of charge
(happened to me on DEN-YYC on June 15th, 2002)

When you ask for OJ and the FA says ("Would you like vodka with that? It'll help you sleep better"). Happened to me on Lufthansa IAD-FRA, I was 19 at the time.

You board a LAX-IAD flight and find out its a 777 basically doing an almost empty run , instead of the usual cramped up 757 you are used to taking. You ask the FA's if you can switch up from Y class and they willingly oblige. You get a B class seat (next seat is empty), with Channel 9 and a window Seat
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:16 pm

When I fly, I expect nothing, or at least plain basic service. I don't expect a foot massage, a whole can of pop, 4 star 7 course meal. I have yet to have an unpleasant flight.
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:42 pm

LOL..
Englandair...
At my last customer service course for which i had to take for my last job being a waiter, we were told NEVER to address customers by sir/madam. Some people donot like it and can get quite upset about it. LOL...
Maybe its a New Zealand thing? Maybe not...

Dave...
Long time no see buddy...must right ya an E-mail!! LOL...Anyways...
If anyone has travelled AirNZ or Korean Air, then that is what i expect. They lead the way in great customer service skills, beverages, food and seating. Maybe some other airlines can learn off them??

LOL...
Catchya guys
Mike

Ps..I wouldnt say i EXPECT it...but it would be nice. I love Cabin crews who love to be there, and love to talk to the passengers. I also love it when they are really strong willed in what they do, and how they represent their airline!! This is why i feel so deep about AirNZ, as every person who works for them...weather that be Cabin crews, Check-in agents, Reservations, love to work for them, and love to represent them in a great way!!

CU!
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:47 pm


The most important for me is that they offer you drinks on longhauls, especially at night. Also a smile when getting your food/drink is very nice.
 
Superfly
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:49 pm

I am with Sdate747 on this one.

Actually cool looking galley carts do it for me.  Big grin Big grin


Just kidding.  Smile
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OE-LDA
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:56 pm


For me, the ultimate service is when the cabin crew addresses me with my name. That's when I am really impressed. But that does not happen very often.

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englandair
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:44 pm

Mike,

It's definitely a New Zealand thing  Wink/being sarcastic Big grin
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:58 pm

Saintsman,

I didn't know that was an expression in the states!

The Virgin crew hand out candy, as sucking it helps to adjust your ears to the changing pressure as you descend (I think....).

Regards
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 1:48 am

6 Things
1. The Food
2. The Food
3. The Food
4. The Food
5. How many cabin walk throughs there are.
6. The Food.
For me, a meal really makes my flight enjoyable, i have always cleaned my tray (except once on KLM when the flight attendant answered apon being asked the content of my dinner, responded with "its brown). If i get the food its a good flight for me.
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RE: Cmk10

Sat Aug 03, 2002 2:48 am

I second the motion! I'm at the point now where if I can't get F or C class and get a meal, I just stay home Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 3:21 am


Passengers who say please and thankyou and respond to you when you ask them a question........ie: take off their headsets and listen to what i have to say. Good inflight service works both ways!!!!! Happy flying!
 
artsyman
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 3:22 am

I think for me it is not just the friendly smile, it is the look on the face of the FA when they are seving people. Do they have a look of, I will go out of my way to help you, or do they have that look of 'What the #$#% do you want?, what makes you think I am going to bring you anything....er..don't bother asking me for anything or I will make your life a misery.

Jeremy
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:22 am

I like cabin crew who although are kind and friendly, remain quite discrete and proffesional, i.e. they aren't in ur face constantly. BA is great for this, Qantas less so.

Bad service is from crew who sling food at you, and really dont seem to care about their jobs, for example Alaska Air!
 
ana767
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:32 am

I have to agree with Cmk10. Of course friendly crews are always nice, but food always does it for me. Nothing can make a flight like something decent to eat. On the other hand, nothing gets on my nerves more than a cheap (or nonexistant) meal or snack.
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:38 am

A smile and a good attitude can overcome any shorfall of meals, drinks or in-flight entertainment in my book.
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 10:10 am

i agree with pretty much all of you, a smile for me makes the flight good.a friendly flight attendant and my own ptv not a big jumbo tron that everyone has to watch the same lame movie or inflight news from msnbc,i can watch cnn at home.



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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 10:12 am

Comfortable seats ; Smiling,helpful and friendly flight crew ; Edible meals ; Great entertainment system.
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 11:00 am

Like everyone else, I prefer to have the inflight crew seem like they take an interest in their job. Smiles, yes. Bored faces, no.
I look at the service as the interaction between cabin crew and passenger.
Helpful, freindly and available. The thing that IRKS me the most are the disappearing F/A's. We've all seen it. They drop your meals on your tray table and then disappear for most of the flight, only to reappear to pick up the trays for landing. If you need a second cup of coffee, the answer will be "Sorry sir, we are too close to landing for that". Where have YOU been for the last 3 hours so I could ask for it earlier?  Pissed
Like an earlier post said, you can have great service on a flight that offers only beverage service, it's all about how it's played out along the way.
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:53 am

"Passengers who say please and thankyou and respond to you when you ask them a question........ie: take off their headsets and listen to what i have to say. Good inflight service works both ways!!!!! Happy flying!"

VERY GOOD POINT!!!

nothing worse than asking a pax "would you care for red or white wine?" and their response is "Yes"......OK yes for what???? Red white or should i pour you a ROSE!.

However I am a firm believer that the crew sets the tone for the fight weather it be a 30 min or 16 hour flight.
 
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RE: What Makes Inflight Service Good?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:30 am


Yyzcabincrew makes a good point about the crew setting the tone for the flight. I fly for a European charter airline (that has had more than it's fair share of air rage incidents & generally increasingly abusive passengers). During the pre-flight safety brief, I always emphasise to the passengers that it is a requirement that ALL crewmember instructions are complied with, and that failure to do so may be a breach of the Air Navigation Order. To mention this is certainly not company policy (I think something similar may be announced/printed on the safety cards on US airlines), and I am aware that many of the passengers we carry may not be able to comprehend this statement; but atleast for the majority it reminds them that safety does take priority over cabin service.

I think the crew's attitude is one of the main factors in how much a passenger enjoys their flight - if the team get on well and look genuinely happy in their job, a multitude of sins such as no IFE, special meal not loaded, tray table broken etc - will more often be overlooked than if the crew consists of a miserable looking bunch who seem to think that if they smile/laugh/have any friendly banter with pax & colleagues their face may crack!

I can honestly say that 99% of us go out of our way to help passengers, are polite and friendly in a down to earth way - UNLESS - the passenger is rude or abusive for something that we have already apologised about, and is usually no fault of our's. More often than not, the unhappy passenger is the one who has 'never flown charter before', and is appalled that they have to PAY for IFE headsets, drinks (small cans of juice 70p, miniatures ??2.50), the legroom is very limited, and the latest innovation : paying more to guarantee all members of your party will be seated together(??10 per pax), paying even more for an exit/legroom seat and paying another ??10 per person if you wish to have a (very compact) meal on the flight.

Despite the frequent problems we encounter, more often than not when the pax are disembarking I hear a good deal of praise for the crew(and this does get appreciated by us), but regrettably very few positive comments about the company!

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