artsyman
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NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 10:48 pm

Hi Folks, There is a Northwest dc-10 parked at the end of the runway at Gatwick with some trucks around it etc, anyone know what happened ? I just flew in from IAH, and it was there

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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:20 pm

The old rust bucket probably crapped out after a flight from MSP or DTW. Imagine enduring the flight over (probably left late), lousy meal service, no PTVs, snitty F/As, plus jam packed, only to land and not be able to deplane right away. NW should abandon the Atlantic service to partner KLM.
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:22 pm

Someone woke up on the wrong side today.  Big grin
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:28 pm

Stretch 8,

How many times have you flown Northwest DC-10's trans-atlantic, so that you are able to make such knowledgeable statements about the service? Please enlighten us.
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:50 pm

Nothing more amusing on this site then seeing someone bash NW just to get the NW supporters riled up. Quite amusing..
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:50 pm

I thought the NW DC 10 was in great shape when I saw 1 last she certanily didnt look like something bound for the scrap yard, how ever I have never flowen NW so I dont know what the service is like, but from the sound of it sounds like the service of the over worked Air Canada staff........poor soles.
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:54 pm

Stretch 8,
Did you by any chance have anything to drink lately (Last night)??????
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:28 am

Comments such as stretch 8 makes are further proof this site is not worth wasting time listening to immature or insecure personality's getting a thrill bashing others. Why doesn't he sue himself for defamation of character?
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:20 am

Stretch...I just flew on NWA from DTW-SFO(29july) and the F/A's were great, the food was good....and then I flew UA from SFO-RNO(29 july)..talk about lazy and snooty F/A's...I then took NWA from RNO-MSP-DTW(31 july) and once again the F/A's at NWA were more than helpful, the food was good and overall it was a great trip....and as far as the plane being jam packed...THAT IS GOOD FOR NWA to see full flights....all of the flights I was on were full too, but I didn't care...it is good for the airline industry....next time you want to talk about NWA, wake up on the other side of the bed...
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:21 am

PTV's arent a necessity, we got by without them for many years in the past and will on many airliners in the future!
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:24 am

And back to the topic at hand...
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 5:23 am

Yes, indeed, I've done many a hop on those DC10s, MSP-LGW, MSP-AMS, DTW-MXP (no longer in service,) and domestically MSP-DTW, MSP-MKE, MSP-MEM & MSP-SEA.

Those aircraft are very well-maintained and I've never had any complaints about the service aboard NWA.

As PortColumbus mentioned, though, is there any other further information available? I can find naught on Reuters, news.yahoo.com, news.bbc.co.uk, or elsewhere... anyone?

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Strecth8

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:00 am

"The old rust bucket probably crapped out after a flight from MSP or DTW. Imagine enduring the flight over (probably left late), lousy meal service, no PTVs, snitty F/As, plus jam packed, only to land and not be able to deplane right away "


Sounds more like Air France....
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:38 am

Is that the same Air France with brand new 777-200s and 330-200s and quite new 340s and 320s?
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:57 am

So let me get this straight, there was a DC-10 parked at the end of the runway because the NW (And UA!) F/A's were snooty and Air France has a modern fleet?

I think the original questions was 'why was there?'...was there an incident of any kind?
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:57 am

Had some oil from the apu get into the packs which caused the smell of smoke in the cabin. KLM maintenance did what is called a "pack burn" which gets the oil residue out of the packs. NWA put all the paxs in hotels and it left the next day. Hey s#$t happens!!!
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:59 am

LOL SJCguy!  Big thumbs up

That gets two thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up ,

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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 6:57 am

Cheers Airliner rx
I noticed this plane yesterday as I was parking up at LGW and was wondering why it was there, it seemed to have all the doors open which I suppose would be to get rid of the smell?
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 7:02 am

I had this happen on the ground in HNL on a redeye to LAX. We took off anyway and proceeded to LAX.



AZJ
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:29 am

Perhaps this NW DC-10 @ LGW had some engine trouble and had to abort takeoff. Or, this DC-10 suffered some damage to itself while on its takeoff roll or landing final.

Nevertheless, I agree with Stretch 8. NW should abandon all DC-10 service, period. Trust me on this, Bobnwa, I have been on 10, count 'em, 10 transatlantic flights on NW DC-10's in the past 5 years. The description that Stretch 8 gave "hit the nail on the head!"

Fortunately, for guys like Stretch 8, myself and my family, NW is dumping their DC-10-30's in favor of the A330-300. And the A330-300 will be coming out next year Big grin. Now I've never been on an A330, but since so many airlines are buying it, it MUST be a whole lot better than the wretched DC-10.

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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:40 am

Maybe immigration and customs were moving really slow, or there were no vacant gates. That's what happened when i was on a NW DC-10 at DTW, immigration was moving slowly, so our DC-10 was temporarily parked on a unused part of the taxiway at DTW for 50 minutes, all doors were open due to the heat and allow fresh air into the cabin.

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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 9:17 am

I flew NWA CLE-LGW (via DTW) twice. In '97 and '00 on a DC-10 both times and I enjoyed it. Then I flew on a 747-400 from AMS-DTW, which I also liked. I thought the F/A were friendly and the food good. The DC-10 entertainment system didn't work that well when I went in '97, but it was my first international flight so I didn't really care then. I can't wait until NWA gets the A330's  Smile I will definately fly them again.  Smile
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 9:34 am

Whilst the DC-10's are old, and tired - NW realize this - hence the A330 order, the service on board is excellent, and the cabin crew amongst the best globally.

At LGW on Tuesday, the NW DC-10 was taxing alongside my DL777, and it did really look old.. Can't wait for the the A330 to arrive. New Fleet alongside great staff will be unbeatable.

Keep up the good work NWA!
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 2:18 pm

Air France and their, um, modern fleet of 30 year old SSTs that break apart, sending shards of tyre into the thin coverings of the fuel tanks, igniiting them, the captain cutting power to the GOOD engine sending it crashing and burning.

Nothing to do with a piece of metal off a CO DC10. Just used CO as a scapegoat for AF's shoddy maintenance.
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:43 am

Lousy piece of UAL crap made an emergency landing in LA!

http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?section=news&news_id=reu-n26366441&feed=reu&date=20020726&cat=INDUSTRY

Friday July 26, 10:53 AM EDT

LOS ANGELES, July 26 (Reuters) - A United Airlines flight made an emergency landing at Los Angeles International Airport on Friday after smoke was reported in the cockpit, a spokesman for the airline said.

The plane, which was carrying 122 passengers, landed safely at 7:05 a.m. (0800 GMT), about 40 minutes after it had taken off for Washington Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C. No injuries were reported.

"Smoke was reported in the cockpit. The plane is now back on the ground," the spokesman said.

Details on the cause of the smoke were not immediately available.

Chicago-based United Airlines is a unit of UAL Corp. (UAL).

 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:51 am

Maybe the in-flt service was so bad that the passengers could not wait to get off? Hahaha.... Kidding.
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:59 am

Lads: I have flown NW twice in recent years (IAD-AMS) across the pond in cattle class and in "World Business Class" The latter product is a huge ripoff. My comments on NWA and their lousy transatlantic service stand. Why do they bother with KLM as their partner? I would fly NW to Asia only. From my home base of IAD, I stick now with either BA or LH; they have the connectons I need in Europe, and their service puts NW (and UA) to shame. It is a shame that real aviation pioneer names like Pan Am, Eastern, and TWA are gone, and outfits like NW still survive.
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:08 pm

NWA's place in aviation history is as solid as anyones. I non-rev on them more than anyone for many reasons. Safety, cockpit proficiency, their outstanding maintenance to name a few. Their management has a clue unlike UAL and a few others that blame 9/11 on their woes. Eastern an aviation pioneer? YGBSM!!!
 
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 2:35 pm

Stretch 8,

interesting to note that despite your comments about NW, you would rather fly with them to Asia (which takes longer to reach) than to Europe. Why? Would you rather suffer more with them? Imagine after getting off a 10+ hour trans-pacific flight in NRT, you still have another 3-5hour flight on to your final destination. Layovers notwithstanding, the satellite terminal NW uses in NRT is crap. Crowded and disorganised.

I just opened myself to be gunned down, but what the heck...
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:32 pm

A330_DTW
it's not because somebody bashes NW that you must criticize another airline maintenance you don't know the first thing about
the GOODYEAR tyre and the thin SST wing didn't break apart with the holy spirit intervention

747-451
I suppose you too know a great deal about AF ife and maintenance...

I don't know what's going on around here lately, but whenever an interesting subject is posted ,some of us think they're entitled to be so b*tchy...

Arsenal@LHR
exactly the same thing happened to me twice at DTW when arriving from CDG and MIA:we had to wait nearly 1 hour on the plane for DTW to find us a gate : it nearly ruined the good impression I had on NW since aside from that NW personnel and service were quite good
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RE: NW DC-10 End Of Runway At LGW Info?

Mon Aug 05, 2002 3:04 am

RyanAir, NW's service to Asia via NRT is served using 747's, while NW uses DC-10's on transatlantic routes. Stretch 8 makes a very good point, because the 747 is truly much more comfortable, relaxing and enjoyable than that wretched DC-10. So I presume that Stretch 8, like myself, would prefer to fly long-haul on a 747 than a DC-10. And believe me, I would know, for I have flown on 747's more than any other aircraft.