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El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:45 am

El Al will start same plane 777-200 service between Tel Aviv and Miami on Sunday. Service will operate once a week via Newark:

04Aug02
LY 0035 TLV 2335-0430+1 EWR 0630-0920 MIA Sa
LY 0028 MIA 1050-1340 EWR 1510-0855 TLV Su
Operates with 777-200.

El Al will continue using NAA 738 feeder flights on Thursdays. During the slower winter season, all flights will go back to using 738 feeders. Hopefully next summer the 777s will return.
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chepos
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:19 am

It will be nice to see an ELAL 777 at MIA, Im prety sure that a twice weekly MIA-TLV nonstop could work .
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:32 am

Yup, twice weekly 777-200 service year-round could work, IMO. Miami has the world's second largest Jewish community and the world's second largest Israeli diaspora, second to NYC in both. The traffic is there. Hopefully they are using this to test-out the potential for a non-stop next summer.
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:36 am

Grrrr.... this explains why the loads for the TLV-EWR flight suddenly shot up through the roof. My folks were planning to nonrev on that next week, but it looked impossible so they came in via JFK yesterday instead.
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:43 am

MAH,
LY operated the 747-400 quite a few times into MIA this summer. This flight was Sunday only, and was a continuation of the JFK service. Any reason it is being changed now?
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:49 am

Flyguy1, I had no idea there was 744 service to MIA this summer. Interesting. The reason for the change down to the 777 is probably:

1) Loads at EWR are weaker than JFK, so MIA can bring up the EWR loads.
2) The high season is over. June/July is much busier than August/September.
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 1:09 pm

Well, no surprise here. What would be interesting is if, as this service develops, and possibly becomes daily or at least 4x weekly, is if they tack on an Atlanta leg to the flight to connect with one of the largest Jewish populations in North America that isn't served by El Al.
 
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 1:21 pm

US330, El Al only serves US four cities, the three largest Jewish communities, New York City, Miami, and Los Angeles, and Chicago (Philadelphia is the 4th largest Jewish community. Chicago is either 5th or 6th, after DC, I do not recall). While Atlanta's Jewish population is not small, there are plenty of other cities, like Boston, Philadelphia, and Washington, with Jewish populations three times that of Atlanta not served by El Al. None the less, that fact aside, Israel has wanted an Atlanta connection for years and in 2000 El Al was on the verge of launching TLV-ATL-MIA-TLV service, but it never surfaced. Also important to remember that Israeli immigrant population is much more important than Jewish populations. The four cities El Al serves in the US have the four largest immigrant populations from Israel and no other US cities come close to thier numbers.
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 1:28 pm

Here are the American Jewish communities with over 100,000 residents:

(US Ranking/World Ranking)
1/1) New York City - 1,750,000
2/2) Miami- 535,000 (+75,000 in Palm Beach)
3/4) Los Angeles- 490,000
4/5) Philadelphia- 254,000
5/6) Chicago- 248,000
6/7) San Francisco- 210,000
7/8) Boston- 208,000
8/13) Washington, D.C.- 165,000

Also in North America, Toronto has 175,000 (12th in world) and Montrel has 100,000 (15th).

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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 1:59 pm

the 75,000 may be in Palm Beach County. Palm beach itself barely has 18,000 residents (including snow birds).

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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:45 pm

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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:48 pm

The turnaround time in MIA is only 1h30 ! This is after 12+3 hours flights. They probably plan to service the plane in EWR or maybe there will be an equipment change in EWR ? Everyone has to deplane for immigration and customs at EWR so in principle why not ?
 
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:53 pm

Attention all of El Al Israel Airlines,

Please made sure that you don't put people baggage on the screening by the bomb devices machine is too much as for wasting of the times. That is too much with the baggage and carry-on too. Just please only with the bags checked too. There is nothing can do as for hijacker by more than 30 years. Just please forget it as for what happened into the past. This is only way to do the customers need check-in at the ticket counter first and then put on the bags will screening as looking for the weapon or something etc. It's best way need to save with the times get passengers on the planes on-times. OK? That is way to do it as for itself. Let it go as for the passengers to the ticket counter from the lines at the near of Bomb Devices Machine. Just please don't do it with the screeners on as people baggage. Understand? Well, good day as for now.
 
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Sat Aug 03, 2002 12:38 am

9th of August EL AL will land at WAW Okecie at about 9:45 (local time) with 777-200, and than (I'm not sure yet) will go to EWR.
 
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Sat Aug 03, 2002 1:25 am

Konrad, I am not sure if it is the same at Newark, but when the flight operates via JFK (even with feeders), everything is done in Miami and passengers are taken to a waiting area until the JFK flight boards.

Also, I received more info right from El Al's Miami office. The flight has been operating since late April. It ends at the end of the summer season (22Sep) when LY will go back to using exclusivley NAA charters. The reason for the little advertising was that every flight is booked solid and has been for a while, so they did not see the need to advertise. Based on this summer's succses, El Al hopes to re-instate the service in April 2003.
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunday!

Sat Aug 03, 2002 2:09 am

I apologize. I stand corrected.
 
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RE: El Al Starts 777-200 Service To Miami On Sunda

Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:59 am

I was going to say, I was at MIA spotting on Sunday 7/21 and saw an El Al 777-200 come in...

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