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SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:03 am

I read recently in a book about long-range aircraft ecnomics, which at one part described about the B777-200LR. It said that SIA, (at that point of time of publication) had an outstanding order of 33 B777-200s including B777-200LRs.

Is that true that SIA ordered them?

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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:12 am

The magazine / publication's 'facts' are flawed.

Singapore Airlines has never ordered the 777-200LRs. However, it could be confused with the 777-200ERs which SIA has indeed ordered.
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:20 am

Hmm.. I don't think they confused B772LR with the B772ER because on the B772LR factfile column, it stated the a/c will have greater range than B772ER and 2003 as the 772LR entry date. The book also compared the B772LR with B744ER, A345 and A380.

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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:31 am

Airbus A380,

I don't want to Hijack your thread but I have a further question. How come Singapore Airlines didn't order the B777-200LR? It would fit better than the A340-500 especially with such a small fleet. Is it because of the Engines?
 
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:35 am

It's not because of the engines. When SQ ordered the A345, the proposed B772LR at that time was not competitive.
 
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 2:56 am

Airbus A380: In that case there is no confusion, just a false information  Big grin
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 4:08 am

SQ didnt make any orders for the B777-200LR main reason is because of the engines . Unless B777-200LR is powered by RR trents , I cant see them ordering B777-200LR and besides they have already ordered the A340-500 which i feel will suit their network ( long-haul ) perfectly. Without ETOPS problems for such long flights .

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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:05 am

I'll repeat it again. SQ didn't order the -200LR because the -200X at the time the A345 was launched wasn't as good as the A345. It has nothing to do with the engine at all. The original -200X was not going to be with GE engines exclusively. In fact, Rolls had a Trent 8104 for the earlier version of the -200X. Will SQ ever order the B772LR and/or B773ER with the GE90? I can tell you with reasonable confidence that they will eventually. They might not order the B772LR, but they will likely order the B773ER within a few years' time.
 
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:42 am

Does anyone think that SIA will dump the A340-600 in favour of the 777-200LR?
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:16 am

Dynkrisolo, what's your theory. To replace the Megatops? This was mentioned in Flight International because of comparable capacity between Megatops and Jubilee 300 ERs and the fact that the latter is much more fuel efficient.

JAL: A340-500s  Big grin Dunno, SIA doesn't really want GE as that would just increase maintenance costs again. Stupid Boeing doing a GE exclusive deal. Most illogical. More probably is the 747-400XQLR. More pax, less operating costs (in theory at least).
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:29 pm

Let the time tell.

Operated A310/B757
Chose A310

Operated A343/B772ER
Chose B772ER (but still operates some of the A343)

Who knows that they might try B772LR? They always can opt for B772LR if they find A345 does not meet their requirement. With tons of money they can surely do that. Anyway either A345 or B772LR will be stunningly beautiful in SIA livery.

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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:16 pm

My theory? The operating economics of the B773ER will inevitably drive many current B747 operators to look at the B773ER very carefully. It's 10% smaller, but it has much lower operating cost. The B773ER can easily be used to replace the majority of SQ's B744 routes. For those routes which have high capacity needs the A380 will do the job.
 
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:14 pm

Just wait for Boeing to save the day with the

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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:35 am

They should have offered the 777-200LR/300ER with engines from all 3 manufacturers!!
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Mon Aug 05, 2002 7:54 am

They should have offered the 777-200LR/300ER with engines from all 3 manufacturers!!

The other two manufacturers do not offer engines in the 110,000-115,000 pound thrust range that the GE90's on the 772LR/773ER have.
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RE: SIA's B777-200LR

Mon Aug 05, 2002 12:35 pm

LOL@Hkgspotter! Good one with the XQLR, mate!


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