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KLM 739's

Mon Aug 05, 2002 5:04 am

Hi,
I was wondering if any of you have flown the KLM 739.
I'm flying them next Wednesday to ATH on economy.
Is there enough legroom?
Is it worth to upgrade to business or no?
Thanks
 
jrebel
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RE: KLM 739's

Mon Aug 05, 2002 5:15 am

Is there enough legroom?

In Y? No, of course not. A flight to ATH should be survivable, though.

Is it worth to upgrade to business or no? No, not if you are paying, be it with $$$ or ff points.

johan
 
LJ
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RE: KLM 739's

Mon Aug 05, 2002 5:42 am

You don't have to pay $$$ to sit in a KLM C-class seat. KLM sometimes moves "the curtain" which seperates C-class from Y-class. Unlike other airlines, KLM has fixed C-class seats. Thus if they do that (and you're lucky) you end up sitting in a C-class seat paying a cheap Y-class fare. However, these seats are usually reserved for S-class passengers (highest booking class in KLM Y-class) and Flying Dutchmen/WorldPerks members. Fortunetaly not all check-in staff seem to know this and you thus may end up in such a spacious seat (allthough you still get the Y-class service but who cares?).

BTW this trick you can only do if you fly a B737-800 or -900 as the amount of C-class seats on the -400 and -300 have been decreased so much that it doesn't happen often they need the C-class to accomodate all Y-class passengers.

Regards
Laurens
 
EHAM06
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RE: KLM 739's

Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:14 am

Hello,
The KLM 739 is the same as the 738 if we are talking about leg space. If I was you I would ask for a seat up to row 10, But not the row directly behind the World Business Class. In these rows you have a c- class seat. Or if you want to have a lot of leg room you can ask the window seat just behind door 13 or door 23 (emergency exits).

EHAM06
 
Leo
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RE: KLM 739's

Tue Aug 06, 2002 4:54 am

Having flown the KLM B737-900. They remind me of the B707-320, this baby is a 189 seater.

One very large Y cabin.

No complaints about seating, standard Y.
 
jrebel
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RE: KLM 739's

Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:25 pm

"You don't have to pay $$$ to sit in a KLM C-class seat. KLM sometimes moves "the curtain" which separates C-class from Y-class. Unlike other airlines, KLM has fixed C-class seats. Thus if they do that you end up sitting in a C-class seat paying a cheap Y-class fare. However, these seats are usually reserved for S-class passengers (highest booking class in KLM Y-class) and Flying Dutchmen/WorldPerks members. Fortunately not all check-in staff seem to know this and you thus may end up in such a spacious seat."

True, and on the older 733 and 734 aircraft these seats are actually rather comfortable. On the newer 738 and 739 aircraft, however, the C seats have apparently been designed to keep weight to a minimum. In the process they forgot about ergonomics and comfort. I had the pleasure of sitting in 3A on a 738 yesterday. The seat cushion can be described as acceptable, but the seat back is hard and offers no support. There is no headrest at all, and the hard top edge will discourage all but the shortest pax from trying to lean back. Seat pitch and recline are modest. I wouldn't want to spend more than an hour or two in one of these seats.

johan


 
Leo
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RE: KLM 739's

Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:32 pm

.... I wouldn't want to spend more than an hour or two in one of these seats................................................Just what they have been designed for.

p.s. Head rests on a European short haul aircraft are not available on any airline.

 
dutchjet
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RE: KLM 739's

Thu Aug 15, 2002 2:32 am

Enjoy your flight, I think you will be surprised at the size of the 739 cabin; if one didn't know better, once inside, you can easily confuse the 739 with a 757, its that long.

As for comfort, all of the comments above are correct, leg room is typical uncomfortable coach......not worse than the rest but tight, but your flight is only about 3 hours. I wouldn't waste money on an upgrade, KLM's European business class service is nothing special and it is possible, if you follow some of the suggestions above, to sit in a business class seat while flying coach - many tourists fly to ATH so its possible that business class will not be fully booked and some business seats (although behind the curtain) will be used for economy pax - maybe you will get lucky.

Its a shame that KLM did not invest in any IFE for the 738/739 aircraft.....while looking at the window is the best IFE in my opinion, the lack of audio and video is noticable on a flight of 3 hours or more, and somehow makes this brand-new aircraft seem old fashioned from a pax service point of view. Enjoy.

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