propilot83
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FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:33 am

These are some fun facts about Boeing Commercial jetliners.

1. The Boeing 747 (all versions) have traveled an estimated 35 billion statute miles, that is the equavilent of 75,000 trips to the moon and back.

2. The Boeing 767 sucks in enough air during take-off in both of its engines to fill the Goodyear Glimpse in 7 seconds.

3. It took 75,000 engineer drawings to build the first Boeing 747-100.

4. The Boeing 737 is the most popular twin aisle - twin engine jetliner in the world, more than 3,000 have been sold from Boeing, and it has carried the entire world population of 6 billion people and it has traveled more than 25 billion miles.

5. You can fit 45 mid size automobiles on only one wing of a Boeing 747-400.

6. There are approximately 200,000 flights every day around the world.

7. There are 24,000 Boeing 777 flights each month.

8. There are 800 Boeing 777 flights each day.

9. You can fit 6 million golf balls inside of a Boeing 757 freighter.

10. One wind shield or window frame of the Boeing 747-400's cockpit, cost as much as a BMW.

Do you have any interesting fun facts about airplanes?

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Airontario
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 9:57 am

I also read somewhere that the engines of the 777 are the same width as the 727
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:02 am

Number 6,9 and 10 really amaze me, others I have probably heard them somewhere befire... Thanks Propilot83!

Airontario, the engines of the 777 is almost the same width of a 727, also the same is true to a 737 because the nose of 727 and 737 are basiclly the same.
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:52 am

Airontario-

You read that in Airways magazine in the article about the retirement of American's 727's.

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:06 pm

Yep, the 737 fuselage fits inside ONE of the GE90s  Big thumbs up


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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:38 pm

Here's some facts about the KC-135...


The average passenger car would operate for more than a year on the amount of fuel transferred through the air refueling boom on a Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker in one minute. The fuel system in a Boeing KC-135R is a highly-integrated and interconnected network of fuel lines and nylon fuel cells. The system contains 50 valves and 14 pumps to guide the fuel flow and pass tons of fuel in minutes for aerial refueling work. The total fuel carried on a single flight of a KC-135R Stratotanker would be enough to last an average driver 53 years. Fuel cells in the Boeing KC-135R are made of nylon fabric less than one-sixteenth of an inch thick. A fuel cell weighing 80 pounds will hold seven tons of fuel.

Enough material is contained in the tires of a KC-135 jet tanker-transport's landing gear (eight main gear wheels and two nose wheels) to produce 100 automobile tires.

At 500 m.p.h., each of the four General Electric turbo fan engines on the KC-135R develops 22,000 lbs of thrust, the equivalent of 80 automobile V-8 engines rated at 200 horsepower each. To lubricate its four jet engines, the KC-135R carries a 60-gallon oil supply--enough for 50 cars. The electrical power generated on a single four-jet KC-135R tanker is sufficient to supply all the power needs for 35 average U.S. homes.

The cargo area in the Boeing KC-135R will easily hold a bowling alley with plenty of room left over for a gallery of rooters. The cargo area is almost 11 feet wide, 86 and half feet long, and seven feet high. It would take over 220 average car trunks to equal this space.

During aerial refueling at about 600 miles per hour, the boom operator in the tail of the KC-135R is only 20 feet above the nose of a Boeing B-52 Bomber.

There are 700 electronic tubes in the electronics system of the KC-135R or approximately the number needed to build 50 television sets. The heat generated by these tubes would heat an average five room home. These tubes range in size from sub-miniature one inch in length and one-quarter inch in diameter to tubes nearly a foot long with a five inch diameter.

The KC-135 contains almost 500,000 rivets, which range in cost from 14 cents to $1.50 installed.

Five thousand wires totaling 14 miles in length are needed in the electrical circuits of the KC-135R Stratotanker

 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:18 pm

Quote >>> "The Boeing 737 is the most popular twin aisle - twin engine jetliner in the world...."

Twin-aisle?? Since when??  Confused
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 5:39 pm



I don't think the fuselage would fit in the engine, but it's close  Big grin
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 6:56 pm

The Boeing 737 is the most popular twin aisle - twin engine jetliner in the world, more than 3,000 have been sold from Boeing, and it has carried the entire world population of 6 billion people and it has traveled more than 25 billion miles.


I didn't know the 737 was a twin aisle aircraft...
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:59 pm

How in the world is the 737 a twin-aisle aircraft? 'Cause if it was, then it would be considered as a widebody!
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:20 am

Great topic!!

Thanks,
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:00 pm

171st Air Refueling Wing, Pennsylvania Air National Guard, 146th Air Refueling Squadron, Ground Communications. The best part time job ever!!!! Long live the 135!!!!
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:05 pm

By the way, those guys in that picture must have been really REALLY bored to start playing the old "will it fit" game like that.... just look at the amusement on their faces....
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:09 pm

you can always put it on ebay
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Jul 30, 2002 5:11 pm


Some other bits of useless information:

1) The original B747's had a centre of gravity problem, and balance issues when on the ground. Boeing found that if they added weight to the engine mounts, the problem could be corrected. The cheapest way of doing this was by filling the mounts with the very heavy and readily available uranium (spent, of course). Due to fears raised in the public forum during the Cold War, this was kept under raps for quite some time.

2) Boeing were skeptical about the strength of the fan blades on the newly developed high-bypass engines designed for the B747. To eliminate this fear, the engine manufacturer (GE I think) invited some Boeing engineers over for coffee and to inspect the blades. Story has it that when the gentlemen had finished their coffee, the host picked up the blade (which the Boeing reps were about to inspect) and smashed the coffee table in half with it. The blade was hardly scratched.

3) Boeing's original B747 test aircraft was designed to turn whilst taxiing by throttling up the engines on one side of the aircraft. This was later redesigned to have a steering mechanism in the undercarriage due to a press van being blown over during an initial taxi testing run. It was thought that it could be too unsafe around airports to turn using engine thrust.

4) Airbus had a massive logistics issue to solve the problem of getting the A380 fuselage sections to Toulouse for assembly. The sections are to be manufactured in Germany, and need to be transported to the assembly facility in Toulouse (similar to the A330/340 and A320 parts). The A380 sections are too big for the A330 transporters, and will be too big to barge along the canal system that runs through Toulouse. Airbus settled on a combination of sea and land to transport the parts, which should make interesting viewing on the highways of Southern France.

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Wed Jul 31, 2002 12:05 pm

Got these off of an old Delta route map I found a couple years ago. I changed the wording around a little bit . Facts about the L-1011:

-There are (were) over 700,000 rivets, 580,000 fasteners, and 5,000 steel fasteners used in TriStar construction.

-Nearly a mile of hydraulic tubing carries fluid to activate the TriStar's flight controls, gear & doors, nose wheel steering, brakes, etc.

-14,000+ companies in 45 states & five countries participated in the TriStar building program.

-The electrical systems contained enough wire to stretch 100 miles (160 km) and is able to generate enough electricity to serve the needs of 170 single family homes.

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Wed Aug 07, 2002 5:57 am

Not sure where I got this but here is an air to air vid (it was used as a inside video of some sort for AA), it really gives you an idea of the 777, 757, and a 737 in formation and the respective sizes.

Please be considerate of my bandwidth and download it if you wish to view it multiple times.

http://www.lazyeights.net/aerial320.mov
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RE: B727-200

Wed Aug 07, 2002 6:43 am

Do you mean the A300 transporters I didnt know that they had A330 Transporters. Also 454 Mid size on th ewing of one 744 wow.
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RE: ATA L1011

Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:45 am


Yes, the A300-600ST I meant. A typo I'm affraid.

B727-200.
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:58 pm

737- not a twin aisle!

Anyway, I read somewhere that they shoot frozen chickens at the cockpit widows at 600 miles an hour.
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:04 am

I saw that mentioned in Airways too (about the 777's engines being the size of the fuselage of the 727, meaning also the 707/737/757 since they use the same basic fuselage). Is this documented anywhere? Is there a site that lists the dimensions of the GE engines on the 777?
 
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Zobatc

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:49 am

Zobatc: There are 700 electronic tubes in the electronics system of the KC-135R or approximately the number needed to build 50 television sets.

Interesting stuff all around... But this particular detail looks a lot as if the text is a little outdated. Modern TVs have exactly one vacuum tube - if any.

And I´m pretty sure that most of the electronics in the KC-135s will have been converted to transistors or even - gasp! - integrated circuits, by now.  Wink/being sarcastic Tubes are heavy and need huge amounts of electrical power.

One of the few remaining uses for vacuum tubes today is in some RF power amplifiers. Transistor electronics can even be made EMP resistant by now.
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:53 am

Wow!! Those facts are mind-boggling, extremely interesting.  Wow!

FACT: The maximum amount of fuel that a 767-400 can carry, is enough to fill 1,400 minivans!  Wow!

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:57 am

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:59 am

2 other amazing facts:

A 777 has over 2.6 million lines of computer code written into it's flight systems software! this compared to 400,000 on the 747-400.

A 747 has around 150-175 miles of wiring in it!

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 9:21 am

Some Concorde triva;

Add together every pilot who's ever flown Concorde, and there still has been twice as many astronauts.

Both BA and AF individually have more supersonic flight hours than all the worlds airforces combined, since supersonic military flying began.

Heating from air friction in supercruise stretches the fuselage by some 9 inches during a typical transatlantic flight, resulting in minimal corrosion.
There is a small gap between the E/O's panel and the avionic racking, on the ground you can just fit the tips of your fingers in the gap, at Mach 2 all your fingers can fit in easily, on an early proving flight a checklist found it's way into the gap, as the aircraft decelerated the fuselage cooled, after landing the checklist was stuck fast into the now reduced gap!

At Mach 2, the intergrated engine/nozzle and intake system is highly efficient, giving a 43% thermal efficiency.
At these speeds, 29% of power comes from the secondary nozzles, 63% from the intake system, and just 8% purely from the engine.

Flying faster than the Earth's rotation speed, allows a westward flying Concorde to reach JFK an hour and 10 minutes before leaving LHR.

This first big Anglo-French project threw some differences, ironed out by compromise, one result was that the UK components were built to Imperial measurements, the French ones in Metric.

During supersonic overflights of the Middle East on the early Bahrain routes, there were complaints that the sonic booms were upsetting camels, ruining their sex lives!

Although Concorde carries a lot of fuel compared to pax, (to put it mildly), the fuel is also used to trim the aircraft over it's huge speed range (some 15-20 tons is used for this) and to act as coolant for the wings, environmental control system, engine oil, hydraulics and electrical equipment.

The aircraft were essentially hand built, it's not unknown for a panel to be taken off one aircraft not to easily fit on another.
This also was the main factor in the first tank-liner mod. on G-BOAF last year taking twice as long as planned, the French manufacturers measured an AF aircraft, but virtually all of the liners in the initial batches had to be returned to Toulouse with OAF's precise measurements for either remaking or replacement.


 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 9:57 am

10. One wind shield or window frame of the Boeing 747-400's cockpit, cost as much as a BMW.

Which one?
BMWs vary in price ranging from $30,000 up to $130,000.
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 10:08 am

I don't think the 737 fuselage will fit inside the GE90, here's why:

The interior cabin width of the 737 is 11' 7", the fan diameter of the GE90 is like 10' 3", right?

See where I'm going with this?
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 11:38 am

Most sold aircraft

To my knowledge is DC-3

Some 13000 pieces!
 
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:07 pm

Oh what the hell I will join in:

Our Radome on the E-3 produces its own lift while in the air.

On some of our jets the rotodome sounds like whales mating  Smile
Tail # 1607 is notorious for it 'The Wobbly Goblin' we call it

We have one of the few 4 person cockpits left in the world-AC, Co, Eng, & nav

At only 20-25 years old we have more hours on our airframes than all but 4 B-52s  Smile

A few useless facts no one cares about  Big grin

nice thread BTW

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:41 pm

Here is a completely useless piece of trivia. I don't recall where I heard it however.
"There are currently more people livinq who were born before the airplane was ever invented, then the number of people who have flown on the Concorde."
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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:07 pm

the frozen chicken was lore, but started from facts.

Someone was developing a crush resistant glass panel, possible for the Space Shuttle. Maybe a commercial airline.

Anyway, to test it, they shoot a dead chicken towards it at around 450 mph to simulate a bird strike WAY up there.

Anyway, all the engineers gather to watch the bird splatter, and then they shoot it.

Well, the damn thing blows right through the wind, and punches a fair sized hole/dent near where the cockpit door is!

Needless to say the engineers almost wet their pants. A few days later, a letter turned up........

You defrosted it first right?

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 2:25 pm

3. It took 75,000 engineer drawings to build the first Boeing 747-100.

My favorite...

Remember this was done in the days before CAD systems. All done by hand on drafting tables.
Having had the opportunity to work with the elevator actuator assembly drawings, I must say, they were truly art.
The fully assembled isometric view with broken out sections showing the internal components was simply amazing...

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RE: FUN Airplane Facts!

Tue Aug 13, 2002 3:48 pm

1) The original B747's had a centre of gravity problem, and balance issues when on the ground. Boeing found that if they added weight to the engine mounts, the problem could be corrected. The cheapest way of doing this was by filling the mounts with the very heavy and readily available uranium (spent, of course). Due to fears raised in the public forum during the Cold War, this was kept under raps for quite some time.

They blame that for one reason all the firefighters and neighbors of Amsterdam's 92 ELAL 747F crash got sick. It got so hot that the uranium started to burn, also Boeing stated the uranium was minimized in its radioactive power. That's how the whole thing came out i guess.
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