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Air India New Aircraft

Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:29 pm

Here is an article from the Economic times about Air India studying a plan to order 50 aircraft by 2007.

Air India made a profit this past year. Finally.

What aircraft do you think they shold order? I think they should order the A340-500 and A340-600.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=18880541
 
kaitak
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:58 pm

This is becoming one of the longest delayed orders in history, due to indecision, Indian politics and the traditional fast moving Indian civil service. They have a pretty urgent need for a 300 seat long hauler. However, politics will determine what they buy and since IC has announced plans to order the 32X, AI may find itself ordering 777s; the 332 should get a look in, however, as a partial 310 replacement.
 
bells
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:17 pm

Indian Airlines has "announced plans" to buy A32X but don't hold your breath for it to actually happen this century.

It will probably take about another 50 years for Air India to order new aircraft as well.

It's such a shame because Air India and Indian Airlines have so much potential for expansion. Air India has so many unused route rights they could fly profitably if given half a chance.

Unfortunately the Indian Government is stunting the development of the country's airline industry because they can't make decisions on anything, including privatising the airlines.

Still, at least we get to talk about these orders for another ten years.
 
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Tue Aug 13, 2002 10:29 pm

Its interesting that the article says they plan to replace their 744s by 2007. Its absurd. Perhaps, its the imbecilic Econ Times reporter who doesnt know his/her -300s from -400s or else it was the idiot Aviation ministry guy who as usual was talking out of his a*se.

This is what the Indian ministry does - it plans a commission to the commission to the high ranking commission to investigate aircraft purchases. As usual these so-called commissions are headed by some idiot political appointee right out of some small town or by a decrepit IAS officer (Indian admin. service). They invent these acronyms for Airplanes (Indians love acronyms) - MCLR, SCLR - and write up these atrocious reports that say a lot of BS (hows that for an acronym?).
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na
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Tue Aug 13, 2002 11:06 pm

I don´t think that AI will sell the 744s by 2007 already. I guess its the 747-300s that might have to go by then.

What about the additional secondhand 744s they want to aquire this summer.
Any decisions who´s selling them to AI?
SQ?
MAS?
KE?
BA?
Or even UA?
 
9v-svc
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Wed Aug 14, 2002 12:55 am

Hmm correct if i am wrong , but i dont think they operate 747-300s right ? I thought they operate both -200s and -400s ?

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na
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Wed Aug 14, 2002 1:27 am

AI has two 747-300 Combis at least. I´ve seen them with my own eyes.
 
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Thu Aug 15, 2002 8:35 am

Right now, the active 747 fleet has 4 742s (EFU, EGA, EGB, EGC), 2 743 Combis (EPW, EPX) and the 6 744s (ESM, ESN, ESO, ESP, EVA, EVB).

The 744s aren't going anywhere (1992-1996 deliveries). The 742s will be gone in a few years (late 70s/early 80s deliveries), and the 743s will follow a few years later (1988 deliveries).

Among other problems with the article, there is no approval to acquire a 737. Also, Frankfurt was discontinued in May of 1998, not 1991 as mentioned.

Finally, note that the ET is finally getting wind of the CDG/EWR and FRA services that I posted here sometime last month.

Sorry, but this article has about as much credibility as a virgin in a whorehouse.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
fanofjets
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Thu Aug 15, 2002 11:12 am

What a pity on the delayed deliveries.... I like the airline (I have flown them several times) and the classic scheme would look great on a triple 7 or A346.
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Thu Aug 15, 2002 2:55 pm

I heard a while back that they were going to get 2 744's from Korean Air, can't remember where I heard that though.
 
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Sat Aug 17, 2002 1:50 am

Official word now is that the 7th 744 will arrive around November 15. Additionally, there will be 3 A310s inducted by December (to replace the 3 A300s gone to Ariana) plus an additional A310 arriving early in 2003. Fleet will then compose 4 742, 2 743, 7 744 and 17 A310.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
na
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Sat Aug 17, 2002 2:15 am

Where is the seventh 744 coming from?
 
JU101
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Sat Aug 17, 2002 7:16 am

Now that Air India have finally made profit, why dont they stick with what they have for the time-being. It would be silly to make significant purchases only to fall in the red again all over again!

Just imagine the cost of 50 new aircraft. We are talking about billions; money which they clearly dont have.
 
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Sun Aug 18, 2002 6:43 am

Where is the seventh 744 coming from?

From an Asian carrier that I am not at liberty to disclose.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
lutfi
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RE: Air India New Aircraft

Sun Aug 18, 2002 10:41 am

Korean Airlines will be leasing a B744 to AI (KAL)

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