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First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:06 pm

Hello, this is the 1st BBJ for USAF, ex-Fordair VP-BFO 30755/545


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:33 pm

What are the USAF BBJ's replacing?

Looks like another 737 with winglets is on it's way to Virgin Blue. How many more are due?
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:49 pm

That is not a bbj it is a c 40 logistics aircraft
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:00 pm

Boeing in pdx,

No, US Navy operates C-40 for transport, but this one is a BBJ, formerly operated by Ford, and will be operated by USAF :

USN C-40 :

29979/496 B737-7AF(C-40A) CFM56-7B26 12/23/00 UNITED STATES NAVY 165829


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Ford BBJ :

30755/545 B737-7CP(BBJ) CFM56-7B26 05/05/00 FORDAIR SERVICES LLC (INTERLOCUTORY) VP-BFO


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:12 pm

Alpha & Boeing in PDX,

You are both right. It was a BBJ during it's life with Ford, but has been redesignated a C-40 for it's military duties. I'm assuming it will be A VIP transport? Or will it be configured like the Navy's C-40's?

My other question is why did Ford dispose of this BBJ so soon? They received two of them not so long ago. I don't think they've even had it for a year.

Wonder if they are having parts problems with there Fokker. Sounds like the 717 could be a good replacement there.
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:21 pm

Ok it's redesignated C-40, but it's still a BBJ, isn't it ?

It seems that Ford will receive this ex-Braathens 737-700 :

http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=26992

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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:00 am

Wait a second...... Ford is disposing of a BBJ, but acquiring a 737-700?? That makes no sense! Can anyone elaborate on this?
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:05 am

Alpha,

Yes, it's still a BBJ. Now just wearing a different hat.
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:14 am

The Air Force C-40B will be replacing the last VC-137 (707) at Andrews AFB, MD at the 89th Wing.

The Navy C-40As are at NAS Ft Worth JRB, TX and are not just VIP transport but fullfill several roles.


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:30 am

Boeing nut,

Ford doesn't have BBJ anymore, VP-BFO became N752BC and now 20201 for USAF, and VP-BFE is now N754BC, and certainly a future USAF plane too.
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:19 am

But I still don't understand the replacement of their BBJ with a 737-700. Doesn't make sense.
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:30 am

Does anyone have any info on the "US Coast Guard" 737-700? Its a BBJ version and is a C-40A. 00-0015 is the number. I also saw my first US Navy C-40A (5832) at North Island... Looks nice.

 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:13 am

There is also a C-40 squadron at NAS Jacksonville, FL. The "Sunseekers." They also operate the old C-9 Skytrain's.
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:47 pm

Are you guys talking about the Ford Motor Company? I thought they only had a couple of F-70's
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:06 pm

Hello Learpilot,

Fordair :

Hawker 800 G-JETI
Gulfstream IV VP-BIV

And they also had :

737-700 BBJ VP-BFE & VP-BFO
MD-87 VP-BOO & VP-BOB


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sun Aug 25, 2002 12:16 am

Not fully sure but I understand that Fordair want an aircraft capable of carrying more people, perhaps up to 40 executives in business class seating and the original BBJs were not set up in this kind of configuration so hence the acquiring of an ex-airliner 737-700. Hope this helps.
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sun Aug 25, 2002 5:20 am

I'm still a little confused. Why didn't they just reconfigure thier BBJ? It's basically the same aircraft .
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