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Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:08 pm

Hello all!

I would like who will buy NWA's DC-9's when they start retiring them.

Thanks!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:20 pm

Joe's Scrap Shack.

Seriously.

They'll all be over 100,000 cycles. No one will want them but the scrap man.

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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:32 pm

You'll drink beer out of them!!
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:08 pm

So they wil be out and gone. Oh well there time is near.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:19 pm

I'll buy one.. YEah.. I'll give them $1000 for the best one they have Big grin

Sadly, they will prolly be scrap, unless some small-time wants to refit as cargo..


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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:29 pm

If Tower Air would still have been alive today, I bet that they would have bought all of them.

Maybe some African airline would buy a few.
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:37 pm

Alcoa can't wait.....
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:51 am

I think some cargo airline still could get a lot of use out of them.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:04 am

At the current time NW is trying to get an inspection program approved by the FAA which will allow them to operate the DC-9 until 2025. Although there is no limit on the number of cycles on an airframe, the FAA seems reluctant to approve the plan which in 2025 would make there oldest DC-9 66 years old.
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:25 am

Interesting, Jetskipper. I would imagine, also, that some of these D9S' would be donated to museums around the United States and/or flight schools.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:29 am

Regardless of when it happens, I think the largest purchaser of NW's DC-9's will be none other than Budweiser  Smile

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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 4:42 am

AirTran, of course.  Yeah sure

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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 5:46 am

I don't think AirTran would take them. Way to old for passengers.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 6:17 am

Maybe Aerocalifornia?......they only operate DC-9 and theirs are very very old.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 6:37 am

We will be parking 13-15 dc-9s next month........
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:51 am

At the current time NW is trying to get an inspection program approved by the FAA which will allow them to operate the DC-9 until 2025. Although there is no limit on the number of cycles on an airframe, the FAA seems reluctant to approve the plan which in 2025 would make there oldest DC-9 66 years old.

I don't see this happening. Even with hushkits, I doubt they can reach Stage 4 compliance. 2010 might be more realistic.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:43 am

Favre?
What is the latest with the 13-15 DC-9's next month?
I heard the there was a a/c allocation meeting this week-but have been off work.
Any decision on 6613? I heard it might soon be on the chopping block to.
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:36 pm

No indeed to most of the posts above. (Time for nitpicking)
The DC-9s will never show up on your grocer's shelf with your faveorite beverage inside.
Freight carriers (read as ABX) like aircraft with cycles about half of useful.
Aerocalifornia has great DC-9s, I've worked on them. They may be old in years but are young in life.

No, I'm afraid that the NW DC-9s will all end up in museums or used as parts for the car you buy in 2003 and beyond.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:34 pm

Thanks for your imput guys!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:53 pm

If u took a look at their (NWA DC-9) out of service record, its appalling. There time has come.. Get rid of them...
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:33 pm

9844: Is it anything wrong with NWA dc9's service record?
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:57 am

I think those 9's have flown many years without any problems at all!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:30 am

AirTran, of course.

 Yeah sure Hi there, Yeah in response to your statement, I would like to point out that AirTran is in the middle of recieving BRAND NEW 717s and they are retiring their current DC9s. Why on earth would they want more DC9s or have you not been paying attention to AirTran since 1998. If that is the case, let us know and TRAVATL, and I will fill you in on how safe and reliable AirTran is, and how they have REALLY Improved 100%.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:40 am

9844:

The NW DC9 fleet has a better dispatch and reliablility rate than the AirTran 717 fleet.

Can you please show me the figures and the source for your statement that their out of service record?

It seems to me that people don't like the DC9's because they are operated by NW and they are old. Perhaps if people could look past their blatant hatred for anything NW and mistrust of anything old, no matter how well maintained they would realize that those airplanes are not as bad as they think.

I fly them all the time, and I would much rather be on an NW DC9 than several other carriers 'newer' planes.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:32 am

I do not have a problem with NWA, But their DC9s are O L D no matter how well they are maintained. It is time to go. Hawaiian has already retired their -50s in favor of the 717, and NWA still has the second oldest DC9 built. Look at how much Hawaiian has saved on costs since aquiring the 717. They have saved a bunch of money. The NW DC9s may be paid for, but they will save money with the 717s in the long run. Those DC9s are too old, and have to be maintained alot which costs extra money. The Dispatch Reliability on the 717 is inherent in any new plane. There are still a few bugs to be worked out like the APU Problems. (Causing most of the delays). Do you remember when the 717 first came out, the engines were causing problems. Now that those are fixed, they have to fix the APU problems and voila. So I would rather fly on a 717 than a DC9, because the DC9 is old, smelly, and LOUDDDDDDDDDDDDD. The 717 is New, 100% Fresh Air, and QUIIIIEEEEEEETTTTT. You do the math, Passenger comfort, and safety comes to mind at AirTran while at NWA, MONEY comes to mind.
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RE: Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:34 am

I'll buy one.. YEah.. I'll give them $1000 for the best one they have

$1,000, NAHHHHHHH  Big thumbs up Try $600. That comes WITH the cockpit  Smile
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