atcboy73
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Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:08 am

OK, I know what the Pacific ocean is and I understand that Cathay Pacific is an airline based in Hong Kong, flying all over the Pacific.

But I am wondering, what does "Cathay" mean. Is this just a name. When I look it up in an online dictionary it says, just that it is an old Chinese name.

My friend says I shouldn't ask this on the forum. He says all you guys will laugh and make fun of me. Please prove him wrong.
 
atcboy73
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:10 am

Of course, he doesnt know what it means either.  Smile
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:17 am

Bonjour...

From a website, http://www.boxoff.com/dec98asia3.html, it says it means Chinese !

There,

hope it helps,

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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:17 am

I believe "Cathay" is the ancient name for "China". "Cathay Pacific" pretty much means "China Pacific."

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PacificFlyer
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:21 am

yes, if you look at an old (and when I said old, i mean ancient! Marco Polo time or somewhere rather) map of the world , where china should be it will say Cathay instead.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:42 pm

Interesting that this question came just after my Business Chinese lesson.

Yes, Cathay means China. In ancient times, before Marco Polo even went ot China, the Eastern Europeans and parts of Europe refer to China as Cathay. In fact, some Eastern Europeans still call China Cathay to this day.

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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 3:45 pm

Yes, people often speak of "old Cathay". Personally, I think it's a great name. I remember, before I really became interested in planes, that there were certain great names in aviation that I had heard of - KLM, Qantas, Pan Am, SAS . . . and Cathay Pacific. It's a very evocative name, suggesting the mystery of the orient, adventure, mystique, the romance of travel . . .
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There is a hotel in Manila called, quite imaginatively, the Manila Hotel. It's one of Asia's swankiest hotels and in that hotel is a bar called the Tropicana. Legend has it that in this bar sometime in early 1946, Time and Newsweek journalists, among others, were chatting to Roy Farrell and Syd de Kantzow about possible names for an airline and one came up with Cathay Pacific. Kind of adds to the legend, wouldn't you say!
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:44 pm

Apparently either Farrell or de Kantzow had some sort of vision of eventually flying across the Pacific, so that got added to the Cathay...
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:34 pm

Cathay Pacific is named after a hotel in Shanghai, which the founders (forgotten how many people there) were talking about starting a new airlines. The name of the hotel appears in a movie, which talks about an English boy's life in Shanghai during WW2.

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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:53 am

What is the origin of the word "Cathay"? Portugese? There seem to be a few Portugese names for places in East Asia:

Formosa=Taiwan
Cipangu=Japan


Anyone know?
 
atcboy73
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 8:37 am

Wow, thanks for all the feedback, and thanks for not laughing at my question  Smile
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:27 am

All I know about the name is that there was a rumor (or legend sorta) that it was made up in the bar of a Manila Hotel. But I guess thats not helping.....
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:43 am

No, Cathay is not of Portuguese origin. Cathay is of Central Asian origin. Obviously, Marco Polo had to go through Central Asia to get to China. So, it's not surprising that he used a name similar to what the Central Asians called China. I believe people in Central Asia still call China using a variation of Cathay.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:11 pm

the word 'cathay' was first appeared (in my mind) in Marco Polo's book, 'the jounary to the east', he mentioned China was called as 'Cathy' (yes, without 'a'). Actually, the word 'Cathy' doesn't really means the place where modern China is at, it means the northern part of China and modern Mogolian and even up to Turks (east of Turkey). It was because the Great Khan conqured most of the land of Asia and even up to Europe, and the people thought that the are the same (Turks=Chinese).

Maybe that's why Cathay Pacific use Marco Polo as their frequent flyer program title.

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RE: Cathay Pacific-what Does This Name Stand For?

Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:27 pm

I guess "Pacific" means peace.
"Cathay" means China.

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