lanperu
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Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 1:47 am

Under FAA regulations, what is the minimum number of F/As that is required on the following planes:

737
A320
777-200
767-200/300
 
flyingbronco05
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:22 am

Isn't the requirement something like 1 FA for every 30 passengers?

I thought I heard something like that. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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deltairlines
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:29 am

I'm pretty sure it is one FA for every 50 passengers, as that is why Southwest operates only the 73S, 733, 735, and 73G (all have 122/137 pax). The 734, 738, and 739 would all have passenger settings over 150, which would require the fourth FA. That is why we don't see the stretch Southwest 737s.

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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:31 am

depends on the carrier and how they have it configured when qualified.

1 FA for every 50 people is the rule.

Basically....mininum crews are

737/100-700 -3
737/800-900 -4
757/200 -4
757/300 -5
767/200 -4
767/400 -6
777/200 -9
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meechy36
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:38 am

Minimum crew is based on the number of passenger seats an aircraft is certified with. In the US it is one flight attendant for every 50 passenger seats.

On the 737-200 through 800 it's 3
737-900 it's 4
767-200 it's 4
767-300 it's 5
757-200 it's 4
A300-600 it's 6
F-100 it's 2
MD-80 it's 3

I do not fly the 777 but think minimum crew is 8, at AA we crew it with 11.

These numbers are in standard configuration, if a charter airline crams more seats in then they have to add a flight attendant for the additional seats.

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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:42 am

If the airplane has more than 19 passenger seats, your are required to have a flight attendant; then the 1 F/A for each group of 50 (or part of 50) seats rule applies. Airlines, who try to have good cabin service (rare organizations nowadays), generally have to have more F/A's than required for the 50 seat rule.
 
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:03 am

I think the JAR/UK CAA rules are slightly more complex. The same basic rule applies that for aircraft with more than 19 seats, 1 cabin crew member is required for every 50 passenger seats, but there are type-specific rules over and above that, generally for larger aircraft.

For example, the British Airways B767-300ER SEP manual states;
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The ANO requires 1 cabin crew member per 50 passenger seats, but in the case of the 767-300 a special requirement has been imposed which specifies a minimum of 8 cabin crew regardless of the number of seats or passengers carried.
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So while a US carrier may be able to operate a B767-300 with 5 cabin crew, the legal minimum for a UK-registered B767-300 is 8 cabin crew. UK airlines normal crew complemets are as follows;
Britannia - 8
MyTravel - 8
Air 2000 - 9
British Airways - 9-11

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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:21 am

Aren't the flight time and work hours a factor here also?
 
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:09 am

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Aren't the flight time and work hours a factor here also?
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No, not for the minimum numbers as they are set from a safety/evacuation point of view. There are separate cabin crew duty regulations, and airlines usually have agreements within those rules on crew rest entitlements.

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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:07 pm

In Europe there is 1 FA if there are more than 19 seats, and if there are over 50 seats 2 FA, over 100 seats 3FA and over 150 seats 4FA.

Many airlines do use more FA in order to provide good service. Braathens airline have a 150 seat configuration on ther B737-400, which allows the use of "only" 3 FA, but very often they use 4 FA. 150 seats in a B737-400 give a nice pitch....
 
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:30 pm

I know that with Air France, there is, at the very least, one flight attendant for every emergency exit. At BOS, the A340 goes out with 11 or 12 flight attendants, the A330 with 10 or 11, the 763 with 8.

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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:53 pm

My company procedure requires one flight attendant(or a qualified company member to operate the door)at each slide equipped door no matter what number of the passengers is.
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RE: Minimum Crew Required

Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:39 am

Does anyone happen to know the crew:pax ratio on LAN Chile?
I know that in first class they have 2:5

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