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Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Thu Aug 29, 2002 7:59 pm

The BBC are reporting two short-haul airlines are about to have MAN expansion. One is VLM's new 5 daily weekday LCY service starting 9th September but the other one is written cryptically:

"Ryanair is tripling the size of their fleet".

Does this mean from 4 flights daily they are going to 12? Or is it a tripling available capacity i.e. using 737-800s on all services and introducing a couple more rotations? Or are we talking just a general expansion of an extra service per day?

Anyone with a high IQ who can explain that cryptic BBC sentence and what is implies for MAN, please respond!

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RE: Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:06 am

If nothing else there will be a capacity increase from Ryanair @ MAN. They are phasing out their B737-200 between now and the end of 2003, so all services will be upgraded to the 189 seat B737-800 in the next 12 months or so.

However, I honestly don't see Ryanair expanding service at Manchester in terms of new destinations, aside from having some very public fall-outs in the past, including MAPLC impounding a Ryanair 737 for non-payment of landing fees, Manchester really doesn't fall into the category of tertiary airports that Ryanair base most flights around.

Ryanair aren't in much of a bargaining position at Manchester to negotiate the rock-bottom (or free) landing and passenger fees they can get at under-utilised airports. Plus at Manchester the congestion means that the tight turnarounds are harder to achieve.

If the BBC is reporting 2 short-haul airlines are expanding, if one is VLM, I would think the other may well be bmi regional. With EMA going all baby, those Embraers have got to go somwhere, and Manchester and Leeds look likely to get at least some of them.

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RE: Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Fri Aug 30, 2002 3:38 am

Crosswind, the rolling "News in brief" on the BBC Manchester section of BBC online still has just VLM and Ryanair listed together with that nonsensical comment! It would also fly in the face of them having LPL as their principal base in Northwest England as I would have thought they would increase LPL-DUB frequency in advance of MAN-DUB unless they were trying to force Aer Lingus out of the picture.

I have heard a rumour about a new MAN-TLS service operated by bmi regional but I'm sure they'd need another couple of destinations on board at the same time - perhaps VIE and FBU?

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RE: Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Fri Aug 30, 2002 5:05 am

Ryanair will not begin phasing out its -200s until next year. The last one will leave the fleet in 2006. So those things will be around for a while yet.
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RE: Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Fri Aug 30, 2002 7:23 am

As David implies, Peel Holdings have recently signed a long-term contract with Ryanair for future route development out of LPL. Routes from the NW to the likes of Hahn, Beauvais etc are very unlikely to be launched from MAN as a result. The UK-Dublin market is to some extent a completely different kettle of fish and I doubt that the terms of RYR's agreement with LPL will obligate them to concentrate any expansion to DUB from the NW from LPL. Their MAN market is sizeable and they will not have compramised their ability to react to market conditions on the route.

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RE: Ryanair Expanding MAN Service?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:13 am

Revealed in today's Manchester Evening News:

BUDGET airlines are on their way to Manchester. Airport bosses are holding talks with Ryanair and MyTravelLite, the latest no-frills carrier.

They could arrive at Manchester as soon as next year. And on October 27 German Wings, a fledgling budget carrier set up by Lufthansa, will begin a twice-daily service between Manchester and Cologne.

BMI Baby has announced it is looking for a third base for its new low-cost operation - although it is understood it won't be at Manchester.

But bosses at Ryanair, who today unveiled the sale of a million seats at £19.99, have revealed they are in discussion with airport managers and expect to make a decision next year.

Fledgling budget airlines MyTravelLite has been set up by Manchester-based tour giant MyTravel at Birmingham - and bosses have revealed they want to come to Manchester.


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